tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post1790822664847825336..comments2024-03-10T10:40:12.454-07:00Comments on craven desires: H$U$ extreme makeoverscurrilous amateur bloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-80474756622959694562014-04-07T10:24:52.842-07:002014-04-07T10:24:52.842-07:00Four years on and the HSUS has risen to become the...Four years on and the HSUS has risen to become the strongest legislative voice on behalf of farm animal welfare. This is what they need to stick with. (Although, the "H$U$"'s finances are minute when compared with those of Big Ag. See: http://www.countinganimals.com/meat-industry-advertising/ Kind of puts things in perspective.)<br /><br />I think Anon's thoughts about specifically directing your donations are spot on. Since factory farm animals represent the greatest animal welfare issue of our time--in both numbers and amount of suffering--I will direct any money I send to be used for farm animal protection only. Packhorsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17180571971381589396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-22363156447319742222011-03-01T19:12:39.604-08:002011-03-01T19:12:39.604-08:00who runs this shit quit bn a pussy and speak upwho runs this shit quit bn a pussy and speak upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-60643180357126289462010-09-22T22:14:31.225-07:002010-09-22T22:14:31.225-07:00http://baltimorebulldogs.blogspot.com/2009/02/hsus...http://baltimorebulldogs.blogspot.com/2009/02/hsus-dont-blame-us-for-our-actions.html<br /><br /><br /><br />Hi John,<br /><br />I got the same form letter from Nadya. <br /><br />Glad you guys are on the same page. <br /><br />This line from the letter I received from both of you is nothing if not downright infuriating:<br /><br />Game-bred dogs pose a risk to other dogs and to people not just because of training, but more importantly because of breeding for aggressive characteristics. Even no-kill shelters typically recommend euthanasia of obviously dangerous dogs.<br /><br /><br /><br />I stand even firmer in my conviction now that the HSUS is not the kind of organization any pit bull owner ought to support. This kind of rhetoric does so much harm to the breed, as a whole, that it negates any of the crusading you've done to eliminate dog fighting. <br /><br />You can try to deflect blame here and tell me anything you want about Faron--I know plenty about him, but thanks for your history lesson--but the HSUS is the organization perpetuating the myths and lies about the dogs I own, handle, and love. I compete with these dogs in schutzhund and obedience, weight pull, and more. <br /><br />I daresay I know enough about game-bred dogs that I know that the bill of goods you're trying to sell is nothing but hype and propaganda. <br /><br />Again, I will never support the HSUS in any way again, and I will urge my friends, family, colleagues, and pit bull lovers to withdraw their support as well. No one who owns or loves a pit bull dog should support an organization that is so reckless and irresponsible as to spread half-truths and lies about our dogs. <br /><br />Erin Sullivan<br /><br />repeat <br />Game-bred dogs pose a risk to other dogs and to people not just because of training, but more importantly because of breeding for aggressive characteristics. Even no-kill shelters typically recommend euthanasia of obviously dangerous dogs.Bagheera Kiplingihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00302038784657563583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-55133486450568997622010-09-22T21:58:43.398-07:002010-09-22T21:58:43.398-07:00Wilkes Animal Control Director Junior Simmons told...Wilkes Animal Control Director Junior Simmons told the judge that some of the dogs that were puppies when they were seized in December are already showing aggression toward each other.<br /><br />"They're not just play fighting," he said. "They're starting to draw blood."<br /><br />http://www2.journalnow.com/news/2009/feb/17/judge-orders-that-pit-bulls-be-destroyed-ar-143378/Bagheera Kiplingihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00302038784657563583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-1528729613190913082010-09-13T15:15:26.694-07:002010-09-13T15:15:26.694-07:00"The fact is, in this community not much has ..."The fact is, in this community not much has changed in 28 years. Except the law. But to what purpose? Dogfighters take a bigger risk, but they seldom pay the price for their cruelty. They continue it unmolested. There have been animal fighting busts and convictions in Indiana, but here the activity thrives."<br /><br />http://www.southbendtribune.com/article/20100913/BLOGS24/100919940/-1/OPINION<br /><br />Sounds like HSUS is not having much of an impact on dog fighting. Maybe they should try banning the tools of the trade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-2801839831903827942010-09-13T00:14:16.105-07:002010-09-13T00:14:16.105-07:00How long will it take for Peta to roll over?How long will it take for Peta to roll over?Bagheera Kiplingihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00302038784657563583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-31582287799717859592010-09-12T21:56:44.779-07:002010-09-12T21:56:44.779-07:00Who bred the bloodlines, asshole? They didn't ...Who bred the bloodlines, asshole? They didn't originally come from bybers and people wanting foofy show dogs. Squirm all you want, but dogfighters are the root of this problem. You don't get to sit back and wash your hands and play innocent now that these dogs are killing more than dogs. The biggest fucking shame is that it's not legal to cull dogfighters, or you pieces of shit and your dogs would've been extinct 50 years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-13651638345626613252010-09-11T12:10:58.208-07:002010-09-11T12:10:58.208-07:00"You never heard of all these attacks when on..."You never heard of all these attacks when only these dog fighters ya'll are talking about had these's dogs now did ya?"<br /><br />Now we are getting somewhere!<br /><br />The attacks are accelerating and the average dog owner cannot safely contain these animals...What to do...what to do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-67497771489491025082010-09-09T19:59:55.161-07:002010-09-09T19:59:55.161-07:00i don't completely disagree with you marty. at...i don't completely disagree with you marty. attacks did happen although not with today's frequency. i am surprised that you have not noticed, i have stopped picking on dog fighters. i am focusing on the lunatics at best friends, badrap and animal farm foundation and now apparently HSUS for their pollyanna bullshit approach to dogs bred for fighting.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-71328582488909688282010-09-09T18:14:14.585-07:002010-09-09T18:14:14.585-07:00You never heard of all these attacks when only the...You never heard of all these attacks when only these dog fighters ya'll are talking about had these's dogs now did ya?<br /><br />Its not the dog fighters/fighting dogs doing all this shit get your lies right!!! <br /><br />Look back 40 yrs ago and count up the "Pit Bull" attacks?Martynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-9387207884105694912010-09-07T02:54:50.294-07:002010-09-07T02:54:50.294-07:00This is reminiscient of when the Tobacco companies...This is reminiscient of when the Tobacco companies used Doctors in cigarette advertising...Corrupt and unethical as hell!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-46607704236864143672010-09-03T10:50:07.825-07:002010-09-03T10:50:07.825-07:00Animal People does not "go through phases&quo...<i><a href="http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/" rel="nofollow">Animal People</a></i> does not "go through phases" of inaccurately reporting the history of the pit bull breed due to pressures by lobbying groups and activists. <i>Animal People's</i> stance has been consistent <a href="http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-study-deaths-maimings.htm" rel="nofollow">since at least 1982</a>. The American public should expect no less from the largest and most respected humane organization, the HSUS.Colleen Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00172691546834093717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-55476686633573378542010-09-03T10:20:58.822-07:002010-09-03T10:20:58.822-07:00Grow a pair Wayne.Grow a pair Wayne.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-78100911020256830952010-09-03T04:31:17.340-07:002010-09-03T04:31:17.340-07:00I feel the same CD. If arresting dog fighters mean...I feel the same CD. If arresting dog fighters means their dogs are going to be running around in our dog parks, killing our dogs, I would prefer it if they don't arrest them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-35330168511149307442010-09-02T21:42:57.365-07:002010-09-02T21:42:57.365-07:00sorry. my emotions are running a little high on th...sorry. my emotions are running a little high on this topic. i am angry with HSUS for adopting the pit nutters lies.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-44347800043953848502010-09-02T21:40:46.096-07:002010-09-02T21:40:46.096-07:00"Since the February 16 ruling by Judge Ed Wil..."Since the February 16 ruling by Judge Ed Wilson Jr. to euthanize the 146 dogs that were seized in a raid on Ed Faron’s Wildside Kennels, the pit bull community has been up in arms. The decision to kill the dogs was supported by the largest animal welfare organization in the country, the Humane Society of the United States. According to the Winston-Salem Journal, representatives of HSUS testified in Wilkes County Superior Court that the dogs had to be destroyed because they had been 'bred for generations to be aggressive.' HSUS reasserted its outdated policy, written more than 20 years ago: 'Any dog who has been specifically bred or conditioned for fighting, or for which there is evidence that the dog has been used for fighting should not be placed for adoption by an animal shelter but humanely euthanized as soon as legally possible."<br /><br />------<br /><br />Maybe it was only Dogsbite that praised them for this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-75391735459083141762010-09-02T21:38:12.694-07:002010-09-02T21:38:12.694-07:00Um, no....HSUS was against adopting out fighting p...Um, no....HSUS was against adopting out fighting pits?<br /><br />Now I'm so confused...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-41839813594071867462010-09-02T20:25:42.219-07:002010-09-02T20:25:42.219-07:00whoa! am i reading this wrong? are you saying that...whoa! am i reading this wrong? are you saying that i support adopting fight bust dogs? never in a million fucking years. all dogs and all puppies from fight busts should be humanely euthanized. i have never felt any other way about it. i'm to the point where i want to form an alliance with the dog fighters. just keep those ugly fuckers chained up in the woods. i am sick of their shit bleeding out into society.<br /><br />as for this attack, yeah, i've been laughing about it all day.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-90705754622008969742010-09-02T17:59:37.511-07:002010-09-02T17:59:37.511-07:00Truly, "had your back"???? Craven agree...Truly, "had your back"???? Craven agreed with the HSUS stance on adopting out fighting pits and praised them for it. So did Dogsbite. What else should they have done?<br /><br />Want some good news? These are my absolute favorite kind of attacks...<br /><br />http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/crime-and-public-safety/dog-attacks-animal-shelter-wor.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-23437385887874385642010-09-02T12:02:35.853-07:002010-09-02T12:02:35.853-07:00Excuse me "had your back"?
The HSUS is ...Excuse me "had your back"?<br /><br />The HSUS is the mothership. A handful of young King Davids can hardly nudge the ship in any direction. And no, the HSUS did not have Craven Desire's "back" at any point. What's insane and "off the wall" is you suggesting that several blog posts by Craven's would have some how rescued the HSUS during the Faron debacle.<br /><br />Shame on Lorraine!FormerOhioGirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-21689529467262106382010-09-02T09:34:53.642-07:002010-09-02T09:34:53.642-07:00if you have ever bothered to read anything more th...if you have ever bothered to read anything more than just this particular blog post, you'd know that i did support and promote the HSUS. changing a position on the euthanization of fight bust dogs is one thing, but turning around and promoting a position that they know to be a lie is another. i can't find it at the moment but i thought that i read the ed faron puppie were so aggressive at 8 weeks, that they were drawing blood on their litter mates. that is NOT due to training or neglect. or loyalty to the ownerscurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-43351998523313650142010-09-02T05:23:28.166-07:002010-09-02T05:23:28.166-07:00Some of these comments are so off the wall that it...Some of these comments are so off the wall that it makes me think maybe you guys are as bad as the pit nutters. Maybe you should have given HSUS support when they were under attack. You didn't support them, and they said F it. Pit bulls is just one breed of one species, so HSUS is clearly happy to change the policy on pit bulls since that was only one tiny part of their agenda anyway. You all only have yourselves to blame when you lose support from groups/politicians/etc because you didn't support them when they had your back.Lorrainenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-86760267950061583752010-09-01T17:17:32.857-07:002010-09-01T17:17:32.857-07:00HSUS has strongly opposed BSL and supported the pi...HSUS has strongly opposed BSL and supported the pit bull industry. HSUS apologists deny this but the very public statements make it clear... the HSUS cares nothing for the safety of the public, and cares nothing for the thousands of dogs, cats, horses, ponies, goats, deer, etc. killed and mauled by pit bulls every year. Humane? I don't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-88114207923256364032010-09-01T14:34:29.419-07:002010-09-01T14:34:29.419-07:00yes dave, they did. that is direct quote from the ...yes dave, they did. that is direct quote from the newslink. please follow the link. i always back up what i say.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-12532802142228916652010-09-01T06:47:43.675-07:002010-09-01T06:47:43.675-07:00This whole attack on HSUS is flawed considering HS...This whole attack on HSUS is flawed considering HSUS never said that pit bulls were not bred to fight.Davenoreply@blogger.com