tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post2186874615927922785..comments2024-03-10T10:40:12.454-07:00Comments on craven desires: a ruckus in floridascurrilous amateur bloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-24039424833835747712014-04-02T19:54:03.355-07:002014-04-02T19:54:03.355-07:00Darn it! I meant to really put Second Chance in a ...Darn it! I meant to really put Second Chance in a pickle with a "Save Ruckus!"<br />Facebook page. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-16121226626103371832014-03-29T04:48:44.876-07:002014-03-29T04:48:44.876-07:00Also, all of the 'black labs' that are sud...Also, all of the 'black labs' that are suddenly causing problems go back to stuff like this. More than likely, they are pit mixes or just straight up pit bulls with slightly floppier ears (which can happen with pits anyway).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-81767181651118091802014-03-28T08:00:48.107-07:002014-03-28T08:00:48.107-07:00Well, true. But, I think the rescue either shouldn...Well, true. But, I think the rescue either shouldn't have taken him or been more strict with him. He shouldn't have been able to break free. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-86297386775527509282014-03-28T07:44:27.345-07:002014-03-28T07:44:27.345-07:00The only thing wrong with Ruckus, was that it was ...The only thing wrong with Ruckus, was that it was a pit bull. It's not because of the previous owner, the shelter, or the volunteer. Ruckus was true to its breed. Not an unidentified mixed breed (UMB) as the pit bull loving women would like to us believe. No birth certificate? No papers? No problem. Just observe the behavior. When a UMB attacks unprovoked, won't stop, and sends people to the hospital, it's a pit bull.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-23253392658759659512014-03-26T12:25:52.477-07:002014-03-26T12:25:52.477-07:00I wonder how this dog behaved when owned by the ho...I wonder how this dog behaved when owned by the homeless man. I just have a feeling that the rescue screwed up badly with this dog. And that led to three people being mauled and Ruckus catching a dirt nap. <br /><br />Of course, I guess Ruckus's owner may have started having trouble controlling him which led to Ruckus being surrendered... and almost adopted!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-47764869552428917232014-03-26T01:17:12.666-07:002014-03-26T01:17:12.666-07:00euthanized, mother looking into claims on insuranc...euthanized, mother looking into claims on insurance from 2nd chance. http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20140325/NEWS/140329630?Title=Dog-blamed-in-attack-on-mom-kids-euthanizedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-10224510811629962852014-03-25T06:28:42.517-07:002014-03-25T06:28:42.517-07:00The police report pretty much says it all. I beli...The police report pretty much says it all. I believe it way more than I believe the crap the shelter is spouting. And the dog may have some other breed in it, maybe boxer, but it sure looks like a pit to me. Sure acted like one, too. I'm hoping a dirt nap is in his near future.Janicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07097250509389434478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-14947558907686692012014-03-22T18:38:27.602-07:002014-03-22T18:38:27.602-07:00second chance rescue financialssecond chance rescue <a href="http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/20-4578117/another-chance-animal-rescue.aspx" rel="nofollow">financials</a>scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-76150660096393462762014-03-22T18:33:21.620-07:002014-03-22T18:33:21.620-07:00Flagler Humane deserves a much closer look for dis...Flagler Humane deserves a much closer look for disgusting because other dogs be screwed, they are running a pit bull centric shop there. They can't call themselves a humane society because all their effort is going into pit bulls.<br /><br /><br />"The Flagler Humane Society has landed an $83,000 grant through PetSmart Charities that will enable the society to offer free spay and neutering, microchips and rabies vaccination to 850 pit bull and pit bull mix dogs belonging to any Flagler County residents"<br />Based on formulas that people use to calculate the number of animals,” says Diane Voigt, president of Flagler Humane Society, “there’s an estimated 1,700 pit bulls and pit mixes in Flagler County, and the 850 represents 50 percent of those, which has been a number that you need to hit in order to really make an impact on a particular population. So that’s how we came to that number.”<br /><br />Pit bulls and pit mixes make up approximately 60 percent of the Flagler Humane Society’s shelter dogs even though they represent less than 10 percent of the total dog population in the county. Pit bulls and mixes are a problem for the Humane Society because they are difficult to place in homes"<br /><br /><br />This Voigt is an all star too, complete with a fake stupid story about a schnauzer (hey schnauzer people she just threw your breed under the buss in favor of her favorite fighting dogs)<br /><br />"“Pit bulls are sort of a strange beast,” Voigt said. “They’re a status dog in many cultures, there’s a lot of breeding of pit bulls that goes on in Flagler County and in fact throughout the South. This is not a Flagler County issue, it’s basically a South issue. They’re a big dog that requires a lot of care and attention, and people get bored with them very quickly, and so they end up with us, which is unfortunate, because the breed is maligned in the media. There are bad pit bulls but the scariest dog we’ve had in our shelter was a miniature schnauzer that even the schnauzer shelter wouldn’t take.” Voigt was referring to a rescue group that specializes in shnauzers. “They wouldn’t take this one because it was too vicious. And this was a 10-12 pound dog.”<br />"Earlier this year the Humane Society applied for what would have been a $200,000 grant through PetSmart Charities. That two-year grant would have underwritten a countywide spay, neutering and vaccination program for many species. The grant fell through. <br /><br />“Since they had never awarded a grant to the Humane Society,” Nicole Brose, a society board member and grant writer, said, “PetSmart Charities didn’t know who we were, we had no track record with them, they asked us to reapply for a smaller amount and build that relationship.” The smaller grant went through. “Let’s do a really good job with this $83,000 and then they asked us to reapply for additional money once that track record is in place. So that’s what we plan on doing.” <br /><br />Flagler County government is actually the grant’s fiscal agent, as required by PetSmart Charities. That provides a level of administrative oversight while placing the county in a partnership role with the society. “The County is always eager to partner obtaining funding which benefits our community and this grant will assist us in addressing pet population,” said Nate McLaughlin, chairman of the Flagler County Commission. <br /><br />“We’re very pleased to have their support,” Voigt said. “Our objective now is we have to get the word out that we’re going to.” <br /><br />SO DOES NATE MCLAUGHLIN OF THE FLAGLER COUNTY COMMISSION KNOW WHAT LIES AND DECEPTION ARE GOING ON THERE? DOES HE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO END UP GETTING SUED BECAUSE OF THESE UNETHICAL CRANKS? or that the city is just being used as the dump for the pit bulls from the breeders after the humane society promotes their breed and hence increases demand and breeding? The staff and board of Flagler Humane are just promoting pit bulls and increasing the numbers and the mess gets worse.<br /><br />How about Petsmart Charities? They are involved with an executive director who lies to protect a dangerous dog?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-46146366930101568012014-03-22T18:19:38.431-07:002014-03-22T18:19:38.431-07:00Here's the current board of directors for Flag...Here's the current board of directors for Flagler Humane Society, and guess who's in charge? TOTAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST for her to run the board and run the place, no oversight.<br /><br />No wonder this place is being run as a pit bull breeder promotion dump, it's being used for her PERSONAL issues and interests, not for animal welfare in general which is its reason to exist<br /><br />The other board members have some serious ethics issues to consider and serious liabilities they are taking on for Carotenuto's behavior which is UNETHICAL AND DANGEROUS<br /><br />Madame Vice President of the Bank, you have issues here! Veterinarian, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? How long until she gets someone killed and you are on thew hook. All to increase pit bull breeding and increase the numbers of unwanted pits being born? increase the number of breeders? Increase dog fighting?<br /><br />These are supposedly educated middle class people doing very stupid and dangerous things by going along with this, and actually hurting animals.<br /><br />Amy Wade-Carotenuto – Executive Director<br /> Nicole Brose - President<br /> Bill Smith, CPA, CFP, PFS – Treasurer<br /> Dr. Gary Shelton, DVM<br /> Maria Lavin-Sanhudo, Vice President Ameris Bank<br /> Dave Zaslavsky<br /> Timothy Connor, PA<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-26166698713510751492014-03-22T18:08:22.824-07:002014-03-22T18:08:22.824-07:00So if Amy Wade Carotenuto is claiming that the pit...So if Amy Wade Carotenuto is claiming that the pit bull Ruckus is a mixed breed, and she tells the world she only loves pit bulls, this means she only loves pit bulls she buys from pit bull breeders AKA dog fighters.<br /><br />Cause how else does she know they are pit bulls, ewhich is what she calls them!<br /><br />No adoption for her, she must BUY her pit bulls<br /><br />So Flagler humane society wants a supporter and promoter of pit bull breeder aka dog fighter breeding leading them?<br /><br />Which brain trust on the board hired this clown who is actually screwing over the dogs she says she loves?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-58920702365116949712014-03-22T18:02:33.254-07:002014-03-22T18:02:33.254-07:00Does anyone have the financials on root's grou...Does anyone have the financials on root's group?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-13444894352960697572014-03-21T03:42:54.498-07:002014-03-21T03:42:54.498-07:00Debi Roots page is a goldmine of nutter insanity!
...Debi Roots page is a goldmine of nutter insanity!<br /><br />I know many of you don't do FB, but "Unheeded Warnings" did a few posts on pics from her page. Be warned- you may head deal so hard you go into a coma. RSMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263889292593663372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-16029591037260929412014-03-21T00:31:02.297-07:002014-03-21T00:31:02.297-07:00I wonder if maybe the mom had a break stick in her...I wonder if maybe the mom had a break stick in her van and knew how to use it. That would explain how she managed to pry nanny's clamping jaws open. <br /><br />The main reason I see for her not necessarily placing pibble back in wherever he broke out of is I thought it might be obviously broken... as in she would not be able to close it at all.<br /><br />After she pried nanny off both of her kids and herself, she drove over to the owner's house (I guess this would be Debbie Root?) in order to summon medical assistance. A man passing by saw her covered in blood as well as the poor children also badly bitten and he called 911 as well. <br /><br />I think it is pretty likely that she talked to the owner as she was waiting for the EMTs. She might have been told not to mention something since the owner would be thinking of 'saving' pibbles even with an entire family bleeding in front of her house. So, some detail may have been left out which the rescue capitalized on with their horrid little statement.<br /><br />And then, yes, the entire traumatic ordeal might possibly make it difficult to recount events. Especially while in the hospital bleeding and trying to comfort her daughter who was crying due to pain.<br /><br />BUT, I think it's possible that Root and Caronuteno will completely alienate the victim. This will be very sad for her, but I have a feeling that she will not allow some things to go unchallenged. Such as Root's little missive (that she deleted) that made it sound like one child was somehwat nipped when two children and their mom were severely bitten and even mauled. She's already made clear that the dog is a pit bull rather than a yorkie doberman* mix or whatever other insane thing. *I made this up to replace lab boxer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-23634663441016281082014-03-20T23:40:11.912-07:002014-03-20T23:40:11.912-07:00please head on over to animal uncontrol and cast y...please head on over to animal uncontrol and cast your vote in this once in a lifetime <a href="http://animaluncontrol.blogspot.com/2014/03/neighborhood-pit-bull-no-problem.html" rel="nofollow">poll</a>.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-11000119942051467052014-03-20T22:03:58.899-07:002014-03-20T22:03:58.899-07:00EXCELLENT reporting and detective work. Why doesn&...EXCELLENT reporting and detective work. Why doesn't the local media dive into these pitbull stories.. Oh yeah.. We know.. They don't practice freedom of press but freedom of propaganda. <br /><br />Misrepresenting the breed of this dog and lying to the police, and the media.. there should be a firing to take down this animal control director that can't tell the truth. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-90752563377256732922014-03-20T21:32:24.829-07:002014-03-20T21:32:24.829-07:00I have to wonder about the security of the "k...I have to wonder about the security of the "kennels". If their containment area is so inadequate that a dog can escape twice within minutes how do they propose to keep the dogs safe? Do they house other animals there as well? This place is anything other than a safe rescue between homes.tropical stormshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00801723382664621739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-62220780261304567252014-03-20T20:13:07.810-07:002014-03-20T20:13:07.810-07:00Best to read while Talking Heads Psycho Killer is ...Best to read while Talking Heads Psycho Killer is playing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-57080944865150263322014-03-20T18:28:48.639-07:002014-03-20T18:28:48.639-07:00"No city should employ someone in animal cont..."No city should employ someone in animal control if that person has pit bulls as pets. It has been shown over and over that such people only care about protecting the pit bull's reputation. They will say whatever it takes to do that"<br /><br /><br /> Many of these animal control pit bull promoters are also taking private money on the side to work for pit bull breeders and sellers through grants, cash payouts per dog sold, speaking emgagement grift, etc<br /><br />Serious conflict of interest using government departments for private purposes, and letting outside influences buy animal control<br /><br />At least now the world knows that Carotenuto and Flagler Humane support dangerous dogs, lie and hide breeding to protect dangerous dogs, and support putting dangerous dogs in homes, and will attack the victim to try to deceive and protect the dangerous dog. So when they have a mauling on their hands at their shelter or with a dog they place, Carotenuto and Flagler are completely liable and have established a history of lying and dangerous activity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-21590965016245523622014-03-20T17:28:42.959-07:002014-03-20T17:28:42.959-07:00All the donors that gave Second Chance Rescue mone...All the donors that gave Second Chance Rescue money are now getting screwed over.<br /><br />Bye bye money, who knows where it is going? Where it has been going?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-36557377275518267762014-03-20T17:27:28.782-07:002014-03-20T17:27:28.782-07:00Second Chance Rescue is more than likely shutting ...Second Chance Rescue is more than likely shutting down as a ploy to evade responsibility and a lawsuit.<br /><br />Want to bet a sleazy lawyer is coaching them on how to try to hide and try to hurt the victims?<br /><br />Doesn't matter.<br /><br />Attacked Volunteer, sue these scumbags! They knowingly are taking in violent dogs and knowingly placing violent dogs and they are gong to get someone killed. They put you at risk and they got your kids attacked with full knowledge of the danger they were presenting and creating.<br /><br />it is time to make these dog dealer/pit bull breeder fake rescues take responsibility.<br /><br />Debi Root, this is all your fault. You bear the liability for this and anyone in league with you.<br /><br />Root needs to be tracked as she will likely set up another dog dealership.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-29423064808846047112014-03-20T14:29:53.250-07:002014-03-20T14:29:53.250-07:00Awesome post - finding the postings of Ruckus as a...Awesome post - finding the postings of Ruckus as a pit are delicious! That humane director is a fucking liar and should be fired.<br /><br />It is so obvious here how they'll lie about pits with no care to the danger they put people in. assholes.Small Survivorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150912262473853541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-63871113347071522142014-03-20T13:59:07.639-07:002014-03-20T13:59:07.639-07:00Second Chance Rescue is shutting down due to the n...Second Chance Rescue is shutting down due to the negative publicity generated by this attack. <br /><br /> http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20140320/news/140329957?p=1&tc=pgscorched earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15765044848187036298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-19109198701049618452014-03-20T13:20:58.476-07:002014-03-20T13:20:58.476-07:00I am sure that the story is jumbled, it may take a...I am sure that the story is jumbled, it may take awhile for her to be able to put it all in order (if ever). Trauma messes with memory formation. <br /><br />If she was lying (I don't think so), I don't think she would have admitted she left her kids in the van like that, because that would draw major criticism all by itself. It would have looked better for her to have pulled up, or been in the van with them, when it happened. It may be bizarre, but aren't many pit attacks?<br /><br />I admit, I was skeptical of the mom being able to pull the dog off like that, and drag it back, not once, but twice. If its true, I would assume that she had the crazy adrenalin that you get when your kids are being attacked. Its not out of the realm of possibility. <br /><br />I can also see her being hurt enough to throw him in a kennel and unknowingly not get it all the way shut. Maybe they are just poor enough quality that a raging pit could escape. Most people just want to get away as fast as they can, so double checking an enclosure, while smart, is unlikely. <br /><br />No matter- what a nightmare scenario. These pit attacks are frequently thing you would see in a horror flick. <br />-------------<br />This reminds me of the story about Amber, the woman mauled by "Sweet Gus", which is another Lexus Project case. She was a poster perfect APBT lover and rescuer (she fostered and boarded for other rescues). Still, she has been harassed, lied about, and totally thrown under the bus after getting mauled by a pit (Gus) she was boarding FREE for a rescue. The nutters even claim she abused the dog, thats why it mauled her, breaking her wrist, tearing out tissue, etc.<br /><br />Reading her site, it was totally an accident waiting to happen. 5-9 big dogs, mostly/many bullies, plus her own rottie. In one home, with 4yr old and another kid, not sure the age. She is lucky that her kid did not wander in, like she was worried about, and get killed. RSMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263889292593663372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-35306048267893728042014-03-20T13:09:25.563-07:002014-03-20T13:09:25.563-07:00Too bad people don't give money to ferret resc...Too bad people don't give money to ferret rescues instead, they are always in need. Fur mommies want to save pibbles, but no one cares about ferrets, even in an emergency. Most are sweet and friendly, and do not require s/n (they come from the breeders s/n). <br /><br />Ferret rescues also get ZERO dollars from humane societies and ASPCA, even though just about every city has a private shelter that takes intakes from a public funded one. They do all the work, and get none of the cash. Its all wasted on maulers. <br /><br />Ironically, ferret shelters I have worked with do not adopt out to families with kids under 5 at all. They actually care about kids getting bitten! But pits? Great with kids- here take a fight bust dog and let it snuggle with your toddler and kitty. <br /><br />RSMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06263889292593663372noreply@blogger.com