tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post5732172148353653937..comments2024-03-10T10:40:12.454-07:00Comments on craven desires: cultures of cover-upscurrilous amateur bloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-2570249643170504892014-04-05T19:59:25.593-07:002014-04-05T19:59:25.593-07:00gish gallop. perfect.
spectacular find sputnick.gish gallop. perfect.<br /><br />spectacular find sputnick.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-37350414126473001212014-04-05T19:20:17.074-07:002014-04-05T19:20:17.074-07:00I just ran into this. It describes perfectly what ...I just ran into this. It describes perfectly what conversing with nutterism is all about:<br /><br />http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gish%20GallopSputnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14573939061886377974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-86179714105728364582014-04-05T18:05:56.825-07:002014-04-05T18:05:56.825-07:00Here is what I don't get. Lower courts are ob...Here is what I don't get. Lower courts are obligated to obey the rulings of a higher court. So why then is THIS ruling not being followed? U.S. SUPREME COURT, April 26, 1897, SENTELL v. NEW ORLEANS & C. R. CO.<br /> Laws for the protection of domestic animals are regarded as having but a limited application to dogs and cats; and, regardless of statute, a ferocious dog is looked upon as hostis humani generis, and as having no right to his life which man is bound to respect. KaDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05386100556734258445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-9566639538235880992014-04-05T13:33:02.963-07:002014-04-05T13:33:02.963-07:00I'm glad you covered this. I wish we could re...I'm glad you covered this. I wish we could recall all the pit bulls and have the pit bull lobby replace their "switches", clearly they are misfiring. Meals on Wheelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01057744351180201708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-77658415417502122802014-04-05T11:25:43.715-07:002014-04-05T11:25:43.715-07:00Have you ever heard of any other dog doing home in...Have you ever heard of any other dog doing home invasion killings? I sure haven't, its PIT BULL THING. <br />……<br />Sled dogs are dangerous to small kids and other smaller animals, just not at the insane levels pits are. IRC, they are a large portion of the deaths in Canada, in part because they are more numerous, and because pits are banned in so many places. <br /><br />Who knows which dog did the killing, or what kind that other dog was. I do think if it was a pit, there would be charges, but I don't live there so who knows. Babies that size are easy to hurt, even a small dog, or ferret, can do serious damage. <br /><br />Tropical Storms-<br />I know it was rhetorical, but I will bite :)<br />I do know exactly why people buy working breed dogs, just to pen them up in apartments or back yards, bored: they see a dog that looks cool, they may be impressed by what the dog is supposed to do, and that is as far as it goes. <br /><br />At *best*, they delude themselves into thinking that their lifestyle matches the dogs needs close enough. That they will walk/run/hike/play/etc with the dog all day, which will make up for the lack of a job. (The few that do this, or participate in agility /etc practicing daily, are RARE.) <br /><br />Naturally, these types have no real care for the animal, outside of a sentimental, selfish, self serving, "love". They have even less care for their neighbors that bear the brunt of the dogs bored barking and other nuisance behaviors. I think it is pretty cruel to both the dog, and the neighborhood. Staceyjwsolarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03565892068781818930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-31377575567252931772014-04-05T10:57:36.933-07:002014-04-05T10:57:36.933-07:00Axtually I read aome interesting history on bo the... Axtually I read aome interesting history on bo the APBT wich says that the APBT and the staffie are actually the same thing. The only difference is that the staffies name was changed because the AKC didn't want any connection to the name pit bull. Also the staffie os bred to a breed standard where as the APBT is bred along working lines so there is no breed standard as far as looks also to register the APBT you would have to go to the UKC or another breed registry wich is why they can be anywhere from 30 to 100 lbs. and still be registered from what I have seen.<br /> <br />On another note my family had a few sled dogs (a malamute and a siberian husky) when we where young kids. They where good dogs and could be trusted to pull us in a sled but sled dogs NEED a job and an outlet for there energy and they do have a high prey drive of you are bringing a baby home they must introduced slowly and carefully and they must understand that baby is a human and also a part of the family but thats really with any dog big or samll. Even my golden is not allowed to be around kids by himself even though he has never showed any aggression. My baby cousin came up and touched his bone and he wagged his tail and licked his face. There is NEVER an excuse for any dog to act in an aggressive manner toward any person or animal in my opinion. If my dog ever mauled a kid there would be no need animal control because he would be dead by the time they got here. My dog has also been attacked by a very small dog and he did not show any aggression what so ever. THAT is a stable, well tempered dog. Why can't these nutters get that through there thick skulls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-71544774558836963592014-04-05T08:16:55.652-07:002014-04-05T08:16:55.652-07:00http://www.dogsbitedecatural.com/2014/04/spanish-s...http://www.dogsbitedecatural.com/2014/04/spanish-springs-nv-2-pit-bulls-invade.html?m=1<br /><br />story also reported here^^ (this is where i saw it)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-18936873028113661802014-04-05T08:14:16.725-07:002014-04-05T08:14:16.725-07:00http://www.ktvn.com/story/25168537/spanish-springs...http://www.ktvn.com/story/25168537/spanish-springs-homeowner-says-pit-bulls-killed-her-3-dogs<br /><br />^^two pit bulls break out of their own fenced yard into another fenced yard, then they go into a house and kill the three dogs that lived there... two little dogs and a lab. The dog owners come home to find their pets slaughtered and two maulers still in their house!<br /><br />And to top it all off, some insane nutter is claiming the three dogs that were killed 'provoked' the mutants! First, no they didn't and we all know that. But second, are nutters not always going on about the rights of mutants to protect their home/territory/yard/bone? Well, these dogs were in their own house and the shitbulls broke in so how could anything they did be provocation? <br /><br />I am not on FB... but OMG... that nutter. she is going to a nutter prize or somethingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-62246098638251609182014-04-05T06:08:42.882-07:002014-04-05T06:08:42.882-07:00Something I've wondered for years, why have a ...Something I've wondered for years, why have a working breed at all unless you have a proper job for that dog? It's a huge disservice to the dog who was specifically bred to need that job. Dogs who were bred to be more generalized in working traits still need a job. Breeds with a need to work require a suitable situation to be really happy dogs, human ego not withstanding. tropical stormshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00801723382664621739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-60754508728198593042014-04-05T05:44:25.086-07:002014-04-05T05:44:25.086-07:00If the second dog was a true mongrel then they mig...If the second dog was a true mongrel then they might not be able to determine what breeds it was made up of. The neighbour might just have had the impression that it had some terrier-ish and collie-ish traits.<br /><br />Anonymous 3.33PM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-29681432082772607612014-04-05T05:39:24.593-07:002014-04-05T05:39:24.593-07:00The Jack Russell incident which I vaguely remember...The Jack Russell incident which I vaguely remembered but didn't look up last night, turns out to have been 18 months ago now:<br /><br />http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/apr/09/baby-died-bitten-jack-russell<br /><br />http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/teen-mums-agony-as-familys-pet-1449771<br /><br />Regarding the "dog ate my baby's head" thing, I can't imagine the woman was in a good frame of mind at the time. Also the baby was airlifted to hospital, which I don't think would have happened had the injuries been obviously non-survivable. The term "accidental death" is one of several that can be ruled at inquest (the others being misadventure, unlawful killing, lawful killing, natural causes or an open verdict. In some circumstances a narrative verdict can be given, such as if the death was by natural causes but medical error contributed). A fatal dog bite would be regarded as accidental unless the dog was intentionally used as a weapon, because a dog isn't regarded as being able to form criminal intent like a person. Maybe a separate category for animal attacks would make more sense.<br /><br />Regarding the law, I would favour returning to a system of dog licensing with stricter conditions on the larger breeds (such as mastiffs) and those which are known to require particular care and pose particular risks, like the sled dog breeds. Some breeds, such as all the pit bull types- not just APBT as currently (staffies are a big problem in the UK and American Bulldogs are increasingly so)- should be banned out right, and Presas could do with being added to that list. I also think that families should think twice before getting any dog with babies and very young children.<br /><br />I don't disagree that there is corruption in the UK police: inappropriate surveillance of activists, lying at high level to cover up mistakes, some very disturbing links between some individual officers and criminals- but not over a dog.<br /> <br />Anonymous 3.33PM.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-19198698655259769722014-04-05T04:32:42.547-07:002014-04-05T04:32:42.547-07:00Someone needs to give some free operations to some...Someone needs to give some free operations to some of the male maulers that run loose. They can use those fake inserts so the maulers' owners will never notice the difference until their backyard breeding operation screeches to a halt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-89303360869143713182014-04-05T01:49:30.328-07:002014-04-05T01:49:30.328-07:00To be fair, Malamutes and Huskies are fairly frequ...To be fair, Malamutes and Huskies are fairly frequently involved in attacks on babies, toddlers, and young children (as well as cats and small dogs). They are highly prey-driven breeds and I would never have one around a child under 10 or 12. That said, they are never involved in off-property attacks on innocents (ie Klonda Richey) and those incidents are the only ones that I really think should influence which dogs are restricted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-17222447261621237262014-04-05T00:49:52.870-07:002014-04-05T00:49:52.870-07:00O.k., the thing is not named Ernie. It's named...O.k., the thing is not named Ernie. It's named Roxy. But, I guess all I meant was a name was given for the dog. I wasn't very confident that I'd remembered the name properly. But, here's a link:<br />http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/eliza-mae-mullane-inquest-six-day-old-baby-3364691<br /><br />And it does show the dog being led out with a cone over its head. I'd never seen that photo before (but I didn't read all of the articles).<br /><br />Two dogs running around a small house with a pram in the middle of the floor and the mother outside and the father (wherever he was).. I can easily see that the pram could be overturned by one of the dogs and then the baby would be on the floor and.... well... I haven't read the inquest, so I don't know how that matches up to facts. <br /><br />Since pit bulls are banned, it seems like there would have been charges brought against the owner of the dog just for the dog being in the house. Now, if the exact breed of the dog couldn't be easily determined (as in really couldn't.. not nutter couldn't) I guess that might complicate matters.<br /><br />I think some confusion might be caused by neighbors just saying in interviews what they think the dog is. Such as I've read a neighbor calling Roxy a "small terrier". Well, in her opinion, maybe that is what Roxy looks like. Whereas Nisha was quite clearly a Malamute which is a much more distinctive type of dog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-32414976934135589892014-04-04T20:38:42.147-07:002014-04-04T20:38:42.147-07:00Re the Mullane case: "The inquest did not con...Re the Mullane case: "The inquest did not conclude which dog had been responsible, but the inquest was told how neither pet had ever shown signs of aggression."<br /><br />also check out a map of police corruption complaints by volume on the UK map. Wales rules. <br /><br />Sorry, but something is not right here, as they literally raced to publicize the malamute.<br /><br />Anyway, moral of the story here, when nutters gleefully say a malamute killed a child in the UK, Remind them we don't know that. That there is/was a terrier/collie cross named "Roxy" that is equally suspect. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-32014504519173729752014-04-04T19:19:41.275-07:002014-04-04T19:19:41.275-07:00The Mullane woman ran out of the house screaming t...The Mullane woman ran out of the house screaming the dog ate my baby's head. The judge found it an accident where 'one of the family dogs' rushed in the door and past her, after the mother opened it, and knocked the baby out of the pram. Neighbors reported seeing the malamute wandering around the neighbourhood after with not a drop of blood on it. Why would she say it 'ate' the baby's head then? the collie terrier/cross/whatever is pictured being taken from the house with a cone around its head. why the cone? is it hiding blood? why put down a collie or a malamute for rushing in a door and an accident. he got the malamute from a pub he said only shortly before the incident.South Wales, dogfighting? or some suspected child abuse? Who knows. People in the area don't buy the story either. The immediate neighbors didn't even buy the story. Is there a better picture of "Ernie", or a link to an article where he was named as Ernie, and where he looks like an actual collie,...ok, then, maybe, but so far it makes no sense and reminds me of a Guy Ritchie movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-61649991289963483662014-04-04T19:00:21.859-07:002014-04-04T19:00:21.859-07:00"...they and their one job are obsolete."..."...they and their one job are obsolete."<br /><br />Yo! Terrerizin the neighborhood iz JOB#1!Animal Uncontrolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353756918671252887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-71480382892636403762014-04-04T18:19:08.154-07:002014-04-04T18:19:08.154-07:00i'd love to add your comment to the experts :-...i'd love to add your comment to the experts :-)scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-27127476412589179422014-04-04T18:16:18.165-07:002014-04-04T18:16:18.165-07:00The difference between "race" which is a...The difference between "race" which is a naturally occurring phenomena based on early migration and "breed" which is a purely contrived and caused phenomena is as different as daylight and dark. These dogs have been created and constantly refined through breeding to excel at one and only one task. Well the dog fighters did a great job of it, these dogs can do nothing well but attack and kill other animals including humans. Sterilize them out of existence, they and their one job are obsolete. tropical stormshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00801723382664621739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-10787208612365733912014-04-04T17:42:22.338-07:002014-04-04T17:42:22.338-07:00I remember reading the name of the terrier/whateve...I remember reading the name of the terrier/whatever it was in the Mullane household in one of the reports. So, it has been reported. I want to say it was named Ernie, but that is probably wrong.<br /><br />According to reports, the baby was found beside Nisha. So, that is why Nisha got the blame. But, since both dogs were put down... I've heard different things about the involvement of the other dog. <br /><br />I thought for a while the baby must have been in a crib and only a bigger dog could get her out of a crib, you know. But, if she was in a pram in the living room, then that changes the picture quite a bit. It sounds like whatever happened had to have happened very quickly.<br /><br />I know one of the deaths blamed on a Jack Russell turned out to be the grandmother who killed the baby. That was a U.K. case from several years ago. It didn't come out right away.<br /><br />Really tiny babies need a ton of supervision and I don't know why anyone has their dogs around such babies. Like the awful case of the father who fell asleep holding a three week old baby and dropped her on the floor and his Shiba Inus mistook her for a toy (which was fatal, obviously).<br /><br />A lot of cases of deaths seem to involve recently acquired dogs.<br /><br />In the Darla Napora case, the dog that killed her (the one her husband insisted they get), they'd only had for a few months. Her dog (a female pit bull), that she had for years, didn't participate in the attack and was found cowering in another room. Some nutter said that meant the dog was abused! Um, it means that dog saw her owner killed by a crazy male dog! <br /><br />I think a lot of people are basically too stupid to know that a huge dog, even if it's gentle, is going to be a handful and maybe is not really a house dog.. especially if you have little kids.<br /><br />I don't think pit bulls are house dogs either. They really aren't pets. But, case after case of them in a house proves they don't do well in that setting. <br /><br />I came to the conclusion about the stupidity of people when reading about some of the biggest dogs in the world and they all had the caution that they might not do well in an apartment. Imagine that! A 150 pound dog doesn't do well cooped up in an apartment! And people have to be TOLD that. <br /><br />Someone needs to invent a way to make fake dogs. Just a thing that looks however people want and doesn't do much of anything when its owner isn't around. And when the owner gets tired of it, they can turn it off and throw it in the closet. But, the thing being fake, doesn't bite or attack or have many needs. It just does tricks for its owner or poses looking tough or whatever the current style may be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-51834769208400420212014-04-04T17:25:13.638-07:002014-04-04T17:25:13.638-07:00I looked up the UK story, and the dog they have pi...I looked up the UK story, and the dog they have pictured may not even be the dog that killed the baby. But it does look like a cattle dog mix. <br /><br />I have a hard time believing a Jack Russell's mouth would be big enough to bite a baby's head. Kind of like the mythical Pom that once bit a baby's head.<br /><br />But anyway, the UK story that wasn't that long ago was November 2012. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-78983905306539141942014-04-04T17:14:55.150-07:002014-04-04T17:14:55.150-07:00@Dawn the one I'm thinking of was in the UK@Dawn the one I'm thinking of was in the UKDick Johnsonhttp://www.zombo.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-58422763032219600492014-04-04T17:14:08.201-07:002014-04-04T17:14:08.201-07:00if i remember correctly, it was back east. it was ...if i remember correctly, it was back east. it was about around 2008 and it was a jack russell and another dog.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-50197340546607000932014-04-04T17:13:44.758-07:002014-04-04T17:13:44.758-07:00@anon it was a year or so ago. I remember seeing t...@anon it was a year or so ago. I remember seeing the picture of the supposed JRT and thinking it was a pit bull/cattle dog mix.Dick Johnsonhttp://www.zombo.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-87274833280430910742014-04-04T16:57:30.940-07:002014-04-04T16:57:30.940-07:00"A Jack Russell killed a baby not that long a..."A Jack Russell killed a baby not that long ago."<br /><br />REALLY? Not that long ago? Do you have a link showing the date? I'd like to know what "not that long ago" is. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com