tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post6707519010640924967..comments2024-03-10T10:40:12.454-07:00Comments on craven desires: reposted with kind permission from da word ninja.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-33195208123535894712014-10-17T10:33:57.089-07:002014-10-17T10:33:57.089-07:00Here is how this stacks up politically
Conservati...Here is how this stacks up politically<br /><br />Conservative support for pit bulls- Farm lobby. The dog breeding industry is a part of the agriculture and farm lobby through the puppy mills and the AKC business with the puppy mills, and also with all the factory farmers, livestock people etc. with the hunting dog NRA people mixed in there. Puppy mill breeders for example have gotten agriculture subsidies from the taxpayer in the past and possibly present through the agriculture lobby. Also the agriculture industry's relentless opposition to any regulation whatsoever especially when it comes to animals. The Farm Bureau is one example of the agriculture lobby. The breeders play a role there in every Farm Bureau in every state opposing anticruelty laws and bsl and breeder licensing etc, and buying politicians. Their reaction to everything is no regulation and that is why these people hire expensive lobbyists to manipulate lawmakers to support- no regulation no matter what. Breeding is the only unregulated industry in America, and they want to keep it like that to avoid liability, be able to use cruel practices to raise dogs cheaply and enlarge their profit, and to avoid taxes. So they buy right wing politicians to do what they want.<br /><br />Dog fighters lobby with the farm lobby, conservative side.<br /><br /><br />Liberal support for pit bulls- comes from the same lobby, the breeders (some of whom profess to be liberal and organize in states like CA, NY, TX), only with the liberal or leftist followers they use different lies and tricks and set up different leaders to lie to the naive. Things like the ludicrous racism complaint tricks, the no kill "save lives" fraud, the pit bulls are persecuted lie, the pit bulls make you special and cool counterculture fraud, etc But it is dog breeders that are still behind all the leftist audience advocacy, and that's who came up with all the lies to start with. Some left wing politicians are just suckers or fools, and they get manipulated through leftist front groups (like no kill groups) that hide the breeder affiliation. Some are personally connected to people who are breeders or they are themselves, some are connected to those involved in national politics like the New York pit bull mafia, but some left wing politicians are also in cahoots with the agriculture lobby and get money and support from them. It's just sold to the public in a different way.<br /><br />There also has been an increase in the sideline parasites hooked in by both political sides- people making money from pit bull retail trinket and book marketing, and dog dealers making money by remarketing pit bulls from the breeders and dog fighters and pretending to be part of rescue or no kill. They are just breeder support, and make the problem worse, but their greed blinds them. They mostly claim to be liberal.<br /><br />At the heart of all of it is business, industry, lots of money being made and trying to be protected from regulation that would expose a lot of crimes. <br /><br />Most of the lower level nutters that you see raving are just the stuid followers, the foot soldiers, tricked by the breeder industry which sells it to them through media and online connections and local organizers. <br /><br />Just like the tobacco industry used lobbyists, front groups, bought politicians, paid off experts, had a corrupted media work for them, hired doctors and health policy people to present propaganda to the public, created mountains of propaganda, so has the breeding industry operated, through both political sides<br /><br />They both share a lobbyist, Rick Berman!<br /><br />Berman represents the right wingfarm industry, AKC, the puppy mills, the dog fighters, and lately no kill through people like Nathan Winograd suckering the left wing fools.<br /><br />But behind all of this, left or right wing, it is all about the money money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-74719307465413396312014-10-17T02:45:41.895-07:002014-10-17T02:45:41.895-07:00True, but I meant more that the liberal people mig...True, but I meant more that the liberal people might buy the lie because they just don't expect someone to lie about an animal being "sweet" (and they like to believe in animals). A conservative person might buy the lie because they want to believe the liar for some reason (maybe the lie teller is perceived as a respectable person or to be an authority).<br /><br />As for the lie teller, their political ideology is team pit bull on this issue.<br /><br />I've already read the article you linked to... it is a good point. When trust is abused, even by an animal that isn't setting out to "abuse trust" per se, it has repercussions. The severity of those depends on the individual. Some people will immediately end the relationship while others will continue to try long past when they should.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-80793325428549168342014-10-17T02:33:10.150-07:002014-10-17T02:33:10.150-07:00Good point. I wonder what the max sentence would&#...Good point. I wonder what the max sentence would've been? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-88207680572278055422014-10-16T23:58:30.358-07:002014-10-16T23:58:30.358-07:00Bitten more than 100 times.Bitten more than 100 times.Miss Margohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09738133130130308032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-27835847728205337922014-10-16T19:49:39.436-07:002014-10-16T19:49:39.436-07:00I agree that the political labels mean so little n...I agree that the political labels mean so little nowadays. The sad thing is that I have seen bipartisan support for repealing the BSL laws. Ohio law change was introduced by a Republican. And I nearly want to throw up every time someone says the its all how you raise them -- that is the general dumbing down of America, no idea of the concept of genetics, breeds and race (aie doggie racism is what I consider the liberal cry). No legislature seems to be taking this issue seriously despite the cost to society (medical, police ambulance, psychological etc). And as soon as a dog goes out and bites someone or is out roaming and gets shot the inevitable "Justice 4 my loving pitbull killah-Jeffey- Dahmer" page shows up and the crowd turns into a mob of foul mouthed threat spewing cretins. Because it is never the dog's fault or the owner's fault. CNYC Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-18542285057798334872014-10-16T19:09:53.617-07:002014-10-16T19:09:53.617-07:00So the Michigan animal control officer, Rachel Jen...So the Michigan animal control officer, Rachel Jensen, who attacked the art exhibit about dog attack victims with the pit bull thugs, seems to be on some kind of disappearance or vacation now.<br /><br />Her friend Michelle Strang who sent fake cease and desist messages to people to try to shut them up about Rachel's activities is the communications director for Detroit Bully Corps, which is run by William R Bellottie and his wife.<br /><br />Bellotie claims they work with police departments to bust dog fighters???? But that they run a no kill pit bull rescue??? WTF????<br /><br />He is showing up online to try to distance himself from Strang, but it's too late, Strang outed their activity with Jensen.<br /><br />Does anyone know anything more about Bellottie?<br /><br />Detroit is the scene of that gruesome pit bull attack on the man by four pit bulls, where police are saying they aren't going to issue charges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-78831706181545752222014-10-16T19:03:03.832-07:002014-10-16T19:03:03.832-07:00Unfortunely liberal doesn't mean liberal any m...Unfortunely liberal doesn't mean liberal any more. <br />People like Michael Bloomberg, Frieden, and all their friends use liberal to hide their corporatist agenda and also to use the government to take tax money for their personal profit. They use liberal or progressive as bluffs to fool the naive, just like the pit bull people use racism bluffs to hide their real interests.<br /><br />With animals, it's like Nathan Winograd and Cooper trying to pretend they are liberal and using McCarthy references to attack their exposers, when all those two are up to is protecting profits for the most illiberal crud around, crud dog breeders and dog fighters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-54673348280865837362014-10-16T17:52:57.698-07:002014-10-16T17:52:57.698-07:00"...Pit bulls, unfortunately, are owned by pe..."...Pit bulls, unfortunately, are owned by people who will claim their dog is not aggressive even after it has done something heinous."<br /><br />i don't think that is an issue of political ideology so much as individual pathology. regular craven commenter branwyn finch wrote an article for animals 24/7. i think you will like it<br /><br /><a href="http://www.animals24-7.org/2014/10/16/parallels-between-the-messages-sent-by-advocates-for-aggressive-dogs-and-the-messages-internalized-by-victims-of-domestic-violence/" rel="nofollow">Parallels between the messages sent by advocates for aggressive dogs, and the messages internalized by victims of domestic violence</a><br /><br />i think you'll find that it nicely addresses the quote i pulled from your comment.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-54206241458063187942014-10-16T17:33:33.794-07:002014-10-16T17:33:33.794-07:00The most liberal people I have ever know did not h...The most liberal people I have ever know did not have dogs. They had cats. THIS is why they don't know about dog breeds. And most dog owners, unless they have a docile, good tempered, and/or well-trained dog, aren't going to expose their dog to a person who smells like cat if they have any doubts about their dog's behavior. <br /><br />'It's all how they're raised' gets bought by people because we've all known the person with an unruly dog (in the annoying category rather than the vicious category) and been able to compare them to someone whose dog didn't cause problems. Pit bulls, unfortunately, are owned by people who will claim their dog is not aggressive even after it has done something heinous. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-68265540030826802382014-10-16T16:34:52.166-07:002014-10-16T16:34:52.166-07:00Yes I enjoyed the Post article. I do not adhere t...Yes I enjoyed the Post article. I do not adhere to either party, am a mix. Sunday is the only day that I read the newspapers, and I read the NYTimes, Daily News and the Post. I enjoyed that Post article. I think the pit bull issue is a failure on both sides -- the liberals with the political correctness (the do not label crap) but also the conservative/libertarian idea of the government should not regulate what type of dog one owns, property rights, government out of my life and all. Why does one need government and legislation? I believe it is because one cannot trust people to do the right thing. The numerous cases and people like Brande and Emma Coy just prove that theory again and again. I am going to look at the links you sent. CNYCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-66229738413373106522014-10-16T15:18:54.634-07:002014-10-16T15:18:54.634-07:00ooh, that new york post article is excellent. i de...ooh, that new york post article is excellent. i defy a rigid categorization to any political ideology, i am mix of pretty much all of them, although i am probably more liberal than conservative overall. i think one of the problems with the liberal agenda is the self righteous ultra political correctness and how it is used to not just quash the debate but it always feels like they are trying to quash independent thought. pit bulls are a perfect example. how the nutter agenda is able to persuade highly educated people to disregard genetics is a head scratcher of the highest order. nicholas dodman and patricia mcconnell immediately comes to mind.<br /><br />thank you for this. i will add that book on my reading list.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-89944139595761487712014-10-16T14:59:46.934-07:002014-10-16T14:59:46.934-07:00emily looks to me like she may cry at any moment, ...emily looks to me like she may cry at any moment, for herself not joan kappen i should add.<br /><br />brande coy looks annoyed, arrogant, defiant. i can almost hear her thinking "how dare you assholes interrupt my day. hurry the fuck up, i have important things to do!"<br /><br />regarding the CDC, yeah that bastion of unbiased brilliance and integrity is not looking so high and mighty at the moment.<br /><br />regarding peer review, i always laugh when nutters sing the praises of peer review. i'm not even sure most of them know what it is, they parrot karen delise and nutter party line. but thank you for these links, i will add them to my collection. one day i hope to do a blog post about it. i have posted links to the flawed peer review process before. here they are again.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6154/60.full" rel="nofollow">one</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.thoss-media.de/peer_review/" rel="nofollow">two</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/rethinking-peer-review" rel="nofollow">three</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-1.1/peer.htm" rel="nofollow">four</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0102-695X2011005000036&script=sci_arttext" rel="nofollow">five</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9676666" rel="nofollow">six</a>scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-46889442678760006802014-10-16T13:46:42.256-07:002014-10-16T13:46:42.256-07:00Wait, I've changed my mind. Emily looks just l...Wait, I've changed my mind. Emily looks just like her mom... she's just too young to have the 'hard faced bitch' look completely downpat. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-24944467022668769152014-10-16T13:44:14.567-07:002014-10-16T13:44:14.567-07:00Yeah, plus some piss-offedness that the cops even ...Yeah, plus some piss-offedness that the cops even hauled her in and made her undergo book (please, please, please let them have thrown her in holding for some hours as they generally like to do... but her makeup looks kind of too good for that, SADLY). She is pissed they didn't buy whatever bullshit story she fed them when they rolled up on her blood soaked lawn. <br /><br />Emily Coy looks kind of stunned, but that could just be stunned she's being booked for a crime rather than stunned at what happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-62435044356935122112014-10-16T12:48:41.538-07:002014-10-16T12:48:41.538-07:00
i dont see that look of brande coy as being contr...<br />i dont see that look of brande coy as being contrite . its the brash look of i did nothing wrong and even if i did , the courts will have to prove it . typical hard-faced bitch .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-91615023183005056202014-10-16T12:10:56.008-07:002014-10-16T12:10:56.008-07:00Perhaps with the Ebola mis-management, the CDC wil...Perhaps with the Ebola mis-management, the CDC will finally get the publicity it deserves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-18893613972526818232014-10-16T08:55:44.623-07:002014-10-16T08:55:44.623-07:00Just to state the obvious:
The Coys both look lik...Just to state the obvious:<br /><br />The Coys both look like evil trash.<br /><br />Just look at the "contrite" look on the mom's face. Yeah, more like the look of an evil bitch that has an "interesting" past.<br /><br /><br />Oh DubV, I've missed your comments!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-5819783366382816962014-10-15T23:49:52.121-07:002014-10-15T23:49:52.121-07:00The breeder industry lines up with the other corpo...The breeder industry lines up with the other corporate interests to get the CDC's attention and protection.<br /><br />They don't have to try too hard. People at CDC are just outright stealing money too. They can't even account for it.<br /><br /><br /><br />"In 2000, the agency essentially lied to Congress about how it spent up to $7.5 million earmarked each year since 1993 for research on the deadly hantavirus. “Instead, apparently without asking Congress, the CDC spent much of the money on other programs that the agency thought needed the funds more,” The Washington Post found. The diversions were impossible to trace because of shoddy CDC bookkeeping practices. The CDC also misspent $22.7 million appropriated for chronic fatigue syndrome and was investigated in 2001 for squandering $13 million on hepatitis C research.<br /> <br />The CDC has its own private funding pipeline in the form of “Friends of CDC,” an Atlanta-based group of deep-pocketed corporations, now including ATT, Costco, General Motors, Google, IBM and Microsoft. To date, the entity has raised some $400 million to support the CDC’s work." AND GET SPECIAL PROTECTIONS FOR THEIR FINANCIAL INTERESTS.<br /><br />The CDC works for Business. It isn't a public health agency. It just pretends to be as it produces fraudulent garbage.<br /><br />Guess who else are friends of CDC?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-71824822536427262482014-10-15T23:33:25.591-07:002014-10-15T23:33:25.591-07:00Just to state the obvious:
The Coys both look lik...Just to state the obvious:<br /><br />The Coys both look like evil trash.<br /><br />Just look at the "contrite" look on the mom's face. Yeah, more like the look of an evil bitch that has an "interesting" past.DubVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14367764785422714196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-34665002846401661672014-10-15T23:29:09.644-07:002014-10-15T23:29:09.644-07:00It took all of 2 days to discover the CDC was full...It took all of 2 days to discover the CDC was full of crap in regards to some things.<br /><br />Rabies vaccination recommendations from them that are used to argue in court are based upon the CDC valuing each individual life at a bit less than $1 million (based upon lifetime earnings and so input to the economy) and assuming that the entity paying for the vaccine is the govt. and the entity receiving the benefit of the continued life is the govt. (or the aggregate "society").<br /><br />It is literally the most dumb thing imaginable and that is why they hide these analysis "assumptions" in a single paragraph in the "master work" that is written by them and often cited by others.<br /><br />Don't be like the CDC and think that society will save you. Get one of these.<br /><br />http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/1319645994101Savage_Model10_PredatorHunt1.jpgDubVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14367764785422714196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-52020342660418233422014-10-15T23:08:34.823-07:002014-10-15T23:08:34.823-07:00Another example of police and animal control killi...Another example of police and animal control killing someone.<br /><br />Neighbors in Modesto CA said the dogs had a history of violence toward other animals.<br /><br />The cops and animal control KNEW those dogs were violent but they did nothing and they got that man killed and his mother may die too.<br /><br />Now there are a lot of weasel words about looking into things. Will they throw their victims under the bus? <br /><br />But because these are low income people and minorities, I am afraid that the interests of some rich deviants will protect this pit breeding operation<br /><br />Want to bet that the Modesto mayor is getting some hotline phone calls from the deviants in New York and coaching on how to lie and blame the victim? Maybe Saul through Best Friends has California Governor Jerry Brown on this one, making sure an investigation will find it was all just an accident and letting the pit bull breeder start all over again and kill his new neighbors.<br /><br />As for the peer reviewed journals, when the peers are corrupt and tell lies, they are worth the price of toilet paper. That is the state of it right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-37691014408236759482014-10-15T22:24:55.479-07:002014-10-15T22:24:55.479-07:00
somehow i doubt those charming coy women will be ...<br />somehow i doubt those charming coy women will be treated too harshly in jail . i suspect they will be accepted as scumbag humans who have killed and earned a certain respect among other the other filth warehoused there .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-45381358928821858262014-10-15T12:13:00.608-07:002014-10-15T12:13:00.608-07:00the elderly man in modesto has diedthe elderly man in modesto has <a href="http://www.kcra.com/news/local-news/news-modesto/modesto-man-59-dies-from-pit-bull-mauling/29145306#.VD65jVJQxTI.facebook" rel="nofollow">died</a>scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-39133621242706893412014-10-15T09:06:05.968-07:002014-10-15T09:06:05.968-07:00The nurse victims that are getting blamed by the C...The nurse victims that are getting blamed by the CDC and Frieden have other nurses to help them fight back against the lies and special interests of the CDC, and they are going public with the truth. The nurses are organized. They have expensive legal representation.<br /><br />Dog bite victims are varied and many and scattered across the country. No wealthy attorneys will organize victim groups for them in order to confront the CDC (or the AVMA or any one of the other crony business groups falsely ooperating as authorities) with its crimes.<br /><br />But while Frieden caters to his dog breeder and pit bull business friends, things like this are going on, this one just happened in California. None of these dogs belonged to this couple. These pit bulls were even in their house attacking them.<br /><br />"An elderly couple are in critical condition after being mauled by four pit bulls at their home in central California.<br /> <br />Stanislaus County Sheriff Adam Christianson says deputies who arrived at the house in Modesto on Tuesday night found the four dogs attacking an elderly man in his front yard.<br /> <br />Deputies then found an elderly woman inside the house who was also critically injured from dog bites"<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4325894281523642428.post-16940107021476744612014-10-15T08:33:50.176-07:002014-10-15T08:33:50.176-07:00THe CDC has people who are dog breeders and connec...THe CDC has people who are dog breeders and connected to dog breeders on their staff. One of them even comes right from pit bull breeder heaven, Stone Moumntain Georgia. That's why the CDC decided to go into the dog protection business.<br /><br />The CDC has not been ethical for many years, If you look for things like CDC scandal, etc you'll find that the CDC makes decsions based on how much money they and their friends make, for example people on the CDC making public health decisions that are based on letting them profit on their personal patents, and also connections to corporations they are involved with<br /><br />CDC is looking out for business of the few, not the public health interests of the many.<br /><br />The horrible performance of CDC President Thomas Frieden has been apparent lately because of the Ebola crisis. Did you see him throwing the nurse in Dallas under the bus and blaming the victim? Does that sound like a familiar tactic or what.<br /><br />Frieden came to that CDC head position from Michael Bloomberg's administration in New York city. Bloomberg spent many years in political office doing favors for his political friends and they all got very rich because of it.<br />Guess who is friends with Bloomberg? Andrew Saul, Jane Berkey's brother and a member of the board of Animal Farm Foundation and a donor.<br /><br />Frieden and Saul both worked for New York city government leadership jobs under Bloomberg. The favors beast strikes again. <br /><br />The hypocrisy of Bloomberg getting Frieden to make a fuss over regulating sugary drinks in New York city while how many of their breeder friends are getting people killed and disabled is just one of the disgusting things about political cronyism<br /><br />If you look at Frieden's history, political cronyism is what it is all about, and that is what the CDC is all about<br /><br />I hope the victims and their families can confront the corrupt with this and get things changedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com