I would estimate that if you had a lot of upper body strength, gripping the gripper by it's hind legs, swinging it horizontally and smashing it's head into a wall/tree/telephone pole/etc... would be a good tactic. Alternatively, swinging it vertically (overhead) and smashing its head into the sidewalk/asphalt/hard floor might not be a bad idea.
Thing is, this would only work with a smaller gripper and the "good Samaritan" would have to be a strapping individual with above average muscle power.
Shotgun works, if you can draw it fast enough them things are fast as hell virtually come out of nowhere. BTW the whole standing firmly and yelling at the dog to "get out of here" suggested by dog experts does not work with a pitbull. Worked for a stand offish lab who snapped at my dog though. Hey though according to a family member of mine itsy dogs fault because he is scared of maulers and hides behind me when he sees them after a brutal attack when he was a puppy but that apparently "could set a pitbull off", so its all my dpgs fault who os submissive as hell lol. Nutter logic I guess cuz when someones afraid of my dog he sits very calmly and will lick thier hand if they choose to pet him anyways.
Isn't this an illustration of what a lot of towns do with biting/mauling dogs? Subduing them just long enough to launch them into someone else's jurisdiction?
Unless that thing landed in the intake of a jet engine, you know it bounced back up looking for more action.
I am laughing so hard. I know it's not funny to the person that was attacked, but it sure as hell is funny watching a pit bull being thrown into the next yard.
I could probably watch this 100 times, and I'd still laugh.
"Q: What is the American Bully? A: All dogs currently registered as either American Pit Bull Terriers or American Staffordshire Terriers will be registered with us as an American Bully." http://theabkcdogs.org/registration/
I'm going way off topic but I hope craven sees this. I posted about the homeless guy and his dog way back. Well he just happened to come walking by my apartment yesterday and I stopped him to talk. He had Tillie with him as usual, and her tag is current, he was happy to let me look. She's the dog who I said behaves nothing like any pit bull I've ever met, nor does she have the head and muzzle shape of a pit. Please keep in mind, she's not a "wiggle butt", nor does she insist you pet her (both things I see in pits around here all the time). Instead she calmly walks with him and if you ask to pet her, she sniffs your hand and quietly waits for the next move. I asked him what breed she is and he said she's a Staffordshire Terrier. Maybe she's cold. She's been attacked by other dogs but doesn't fight back.
Here's the thing that got me most. We were talking about that monster AmBully next door. I'm not the only one raising hell about it, he's complained because he's afraid of being attacked, or having his dog killed. The city has told him pretty much the same thing they tell me, there's no proof the dog is vicious and it has no reported attacks. There's nothing they will do until someone or some animal is hurt. I fear for the senior citizens across the street and for my son and the other kids around here. we, perfectly reasonable adults have set boundaries that keep our kids from going just around the block and one of us is always on "guard duty" with a weapon at the ready. The homeless guy told me yesterday that now they're letting the dog be loose in their yard while they're outside with it. Call me crazy but I really do prefer the seemingly cold Staffy with a responsible owner to the rumored narcs monster dog.
I know some of you would suggest poison... but that's not even possible. The dog isn't outside without them. I can't believe our complaints are going nowhere. I haven't recorded the dog snarling at me, I won't walk by there at all for fear the dog might be outside, loose or not. I've been told the owners have trained him to be aggressive towards people, which, when living in an apartment with all the other people around make them a special type of scum. I hope the dog rips their faces off instead of some innocent victim. If it comes near my son, it will be dead, my machete says so.
you will never hear me saying that ALL grippers are animal aggressive. and honest gripper fanciers acknowledge that amstaffs can be just as animal aggressive as apbts.
i hate it when people speak in absolutes. anyone speaking in absolutes on either side of this war should be discredited.
but regarding this particular "cold" amstaff, she COULD live peacefully for 10 years without incident and then attack. or she COULD live forever without ever attacking anyone or anything. we'll never know until the day she dies and even then you have to rely on the honest self reporting of a person who chooses to own a dog with a fighting heritage.
It may not be an Amstaff - could be an English staff. They've been bred for show longer than Amstaffs have and the reputable KC breeders have been trying to breed out the aggression so some lines are quite docile. Still you can never be sure - many pit bulls are passed off as Staffies so unless you've seen the KC paperwork (and even then it's not a sure thing) you can't tell whether the dog is truly cold or just well managed / trained.
Still he sounds like a fairly responsible owner - I hope his dog really is gentle and not interested in fighting and I hope it never gets torn up by the neighbour's bully.
"i hate it when people speak in absolutes. anyone speaking in absolutes on either side of this war should be discredited."
I love this! I always say there are exceptions.
I've come to the conclusion in my mind, that yes, all dogs can bite. However, all pit bulls can maul. I have no idea how to differentiate between the ones that will, or will not. I prefer not to interact with pit bulls, period. That is not an absolute, because sometimes I cannot avoid them. That's why I carry weapons.
'but regarding this particular "cold" amstaff, she COULD live peacefully for 10 years without incident and then attack. or she COULD live forever without ever attacking anyone or anything. we'll never know until the day she dies and even then you have to rely on the honest self reporting of a person who chooses to own a dog with a fighting heritage.'
I know you don't think they're all aggressive, neither do I. He told me she's the only one he's owned, but knows they have the reputation. He did show me a few nasty scars on his arm, one from a bulldog, the other from a pit. He said he got both getting them off of Tillie. She has a scar from where the bulldog went after her. He did say he should have sued those owners for the hospital and vet bills, and he's right. I hope Tillie never attacks, or fights back, right now, she's a very good dog. She's in the hands of a capable and despite being homeless at times, responsible owner. I hope he always has that bond and she never breaks it. Even though I've never asked him his name, I've known him and the dog for three years. He's always been pleasant to talk with and she's always been calm and friendly. I have no other Staffys to compare her to, I don't know if they sit as quietly as her or not. I do know that pits are rarely quiet and usually try to climb on top of you. The very few American bulldogs I've seen have been more calm than the pits, but I wouldn't trust them. The only designer, that AmBully, I've met isn't running at anything, but he's not really calm and quiet either. Though rare here I've met a few bull terriers, they've been somewhere in between. Friendly and less calm, but not overwhelming like the pits.
I'm using quiet to describe body language as well as barking. Pits just seem super hyper, tails in constant motion, head butting your hand, and like I said climbing on you. I lived with the two before I was aware of the real dangers, and they were always that way. I've met many, many more who act like that. Tillie and the other dogs with fighting heritage I've met have been more docile, but I don't know if that' usually the case.
I don't hate the majority of bully breed dogs in this town. I hope they can live their whole lives without ever attacking a person or another animal. I do avoid them, for my and my son's safety. After all, while not all of them act like the designer devil dog, not all of them act like Tillie either. It's not worth the gamble and getting it wrong.
I see what you did there :P <3
ReplyDeletePb defense tactics; there are none!
Lol it was sent over the moon.
ReplyDeleteNot sure if i want to get my hands that close to the sharks mouth.
I would estimate that if you had a lot of upper body strength, gripping the gripper by it's hind legs, swinging it horizontally and smashing it's head into a wall/tree/telephone pole/etc... would be a good tactic. Alternatively, swinging it vertically (overhead) and smashing its head into the sidewalk/asphalt/hard floor might not be a bad idea.
ReplyDeleteThing is, this would only work with a smaller gripper and the "good Samaritan" would have to be a strapping individual with above average muscle power.
Shotgun works, if you can draw it fast enough them things are fast as hell virtually come out of nowhere. BTW the whole standing firmly and yelling at the dog to "get out of here" suggested by dog experts does not work with a pitbull. Worked for a stand offish lab who snapped at my dog though. Hey though according to a family member of mine itsy dogs fault because he is scared of maulers and hides behind me when he sees them after a brutal attack when he was a puppy but that apparently "could set a pitbull off", so its all my dpgs fault who os submissive as hell lol. Nutter logic I guess cuz when someones afraid of my dog he sits very calmly and will lick thier hand if they choose to pet him anyways.
ReplyDeleteHILARIOUS!
ReplyDeleteLOL, over the moon.
I am sure that dog just came right back, but still, it was a funny thing to watch.
That guy fought back with a vengeance! A nice bit of gladiatorial valor.It did my overly civilized soul a sneaky thrill.Ha!
ReplyDeleteIsn't this an illustration of what a lot of towns do with biting/mauling dogs? Subduing them just long enough to launch them into someone else's jurisdiction?
ReplyDeleteUnless that thing landed in the intake of a jet engine, you know it bounced back up looking for more action.
Hopefully it ended up in the wood chipper...
ReplyDeleteI am laughing so hard. I know it's not funny to the person that was attacked, but it sure as hell is funny watching a pit bull being thrown into the next yard.
ReplyDeleteI could probably watch this 100 times, and I'd still laugh.
hes prob a dog fighter ...they know how to deal with those ugly things.
ReplyDeleteThis looks staged to me. Maybe even practiced.
ReplyDeleteFinalize the rats before they spread and end up at your front door.
ReplyDeleteDang it! 'Safari cannot open page because address is invalid'.... :-(
ReplyDelete@Dayna Hamilton -
ReplyDeleteTask number one with a new Mac:
Install firefox and/or google chrome to allow access to those URLS that safari can't handle.
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ReplyDeletesounds like he hurt his back or something tossing that pigdog back where it came from .
There's a rumor going on that there's no APBT blood in any American bully lines. Good topic for a Truth About Pit Bulls blog maybe?
ReplyDeleteTime for me to do some more pull ups and push ups ;)
ReplyDeleteI don't think that was staged unless he wanted to kill his own dog.
With the 90 to 100 lbs blue nose pit that attacked me, this would be very difficult for most to pull off. I couldn't do it right now with a large pit.
That was a smaller pit though.
I heard someone yelling for him to bash it against the wall.
Anon 7/2/2014 5:33.
ReplyDeleteCheck the American Bully website.
"Q: What is the American Bully?
A: All dogs currently registered as either American Pit Bull Terriers or American Staffordshire Terriers will be registered with us as an American Bully." http://theabkcdogs.org/registration/
"There's a rumor going on that there's no APBT blood in any American bully lines. Good topic for a Truth About Pit Bulls blog maybe?"
ReplyDeletei'll keep that in mind anon 5:33.
in case you weren't aware of Edward Axtell he coined the boston terrier as the american dog back in a 1893 AKC publication.
ReplyDeletetruth blog material?
what the fuck is wrong with you that is animal cruelty you are all a bunch of sickos
ReplyDeleteI'd rather be a sicko than a nutter. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteI'm going way off topic but I hope craven sees this. I posted about the homeless guy and his dog way back. Well he just happened to come walking by my apartment yesterday and I stopped him to talk. He had Tillie with him as usual, and her tag is current, he was happy to let me look. She's the dog who I said behaves nothing like any pit bull I've ever met, nor does she have the head and muzzle shape of a pit. Please keep in mind, she's not a "wiggle butt", nor does she insist you pet her (both things I see in pits around here all the time). Instead she calmly walks with him and if you ask to pet her, she sniffs your hand and quietly waits for the next move. I asked him what breed she is and he said she's a Staffordshire Terrier. Maybe she's cold. She's been attacked by other dogs but doesn't fight back.
ReplyDeleteHere's the thing that got me most. We were talking about that monster AmBully next door. I'm not the only one raising hell about it, he's complained because he's afraid of being attacked, or having his dog killed. The city has told him pretty much the same thing they tell me, there's no proof the dog is vicious and it has no reported attacks. There's nothing they will do until someone or some animal is hurt. I fear for the senior citizens across the street and for my son and the other kids around here. we, perfectly reasonable adults have set boundaries that keep our kids from going just around the block and one of us is always on "guard duty" with a weapon at the ready. The homeless guy told me yesterday that now they're letting the dog be loose in their yard while they're outside with it. Call me crazy but I really do prefer the seemingly cold Staffy with a responsible owner to the rumored narcs monster dog.
I know some of you would suggest poison... but that's not even possible. The dog isn't outside without them. I can't believe our complaints are going nowhere. I haven't recorded the dog snarling at me, I won't walk by there at all for fear the dog might be outside, loose or not. I've been told the owners have trained him to be aggressive towards people, which, when living in an apartment with all the other people around make them a special type of scum. I hope the dog rips their faces off instead of some innocent victim. If it comes near my son, it will be dead, my machete says so.
you will never hear me saying that ALL grippers are animal aggressive. and honest gripper fanciers acknowledge that amstaffs can be just as animal aggressive as apbts.
ReplyDeletei hate it when people speak in absolutes. anyone speaking in absolutes on either side of this war should be discredited.
but regarding this particular "cold" amstaff, she COULD live peacefully for 10 years without incident and then attack. or she COULD live forever without ever attacking anyone or anything. we'll never know until the day she dies and even then you have to rely on the honest self reporting of a person who chooses to own a dog with a fighting heritage.
It may not be an Amstaff - could be an English staff. They've been bred for show longer than Amstaffs have and the reputable KC breeders have been trying to breed out the aggression so some lines are quite docile. Still you can never be sure - many pit bulls are passed off as Staffies so unless you've seen the KC paperwork (and even then it's not a sure thing) you can't tell whether the dog is truly cold or just well managed / trained.
DeleteStill he sounds like a fairly responsible owner - I hope his dog really is gentle and not interested in fighting and I hope it never gets torn up by the neighbour's bully.
"i hate it when people speak in absolutes. anyone speaking in absolutes on either side of this war should be discredited."
ReplyDeleteI love this! I always say there are exceptions.
I've come to the conclusion in my mind, that yes, all dogs can bite. However, all pit bulls can maul. I have no idea how to differentiate between the ones that will, or will not. I prefer not to interact with pit bulls, period. That is not an absolute, because sometimes I cannot avoid them. That's why I carry weapons.
Craven said:
ReplyDelete'but regarding this particular "cold" amstaff, she COULD live peacefully for 10 years without incident and then attack. or she COULD live forever without ever attacking anyone or anything. we'll never know until the day she dies and even then you have to rely on the honest self reporting of a person who chooses to own a dog with a fighting heritage.'
Craven, you nailed it!
I know you don't think they're all aggressive, neither do I. He told me she's the only one he's owned, but knows they have the reputation. He did show me a few nasty scars on his arm, one from a bulldog, the other from a pit. He said he got both getting them off of Tillie. She has a scar from where the bulldog went after her. He did say he should have sued those owners for the hospital and vet bills, and he's right.
ReplyDeleteI hope Tillie never attacks, or fights back, right now, she's a very good dog. She's in the hands of a capable and despite being homeless at times, responsible owner. I hope he always has that bond and she never breaks it. Even though I've never asked him his name, I've known him and the dog for three years. He's always been pleasant to talk with and she's always been calm and friendly.
I have no other Staffys to compare her to, I don't know if they sit as quietly as her or not. I do know that pits are rarely quiet and usually try to climb on top of you. The very few American bulldogs I've seen have been more calm than the pits, but I wouldn't trust them. The only designer, that AmBully, I've met isn't running at anything, but he's not really calm and quiet either. Though rare here I've met a few bull terriers, they've been somewhere in between. Friendly and less calm, but not overwhelming like the pits.
I'm using quiet to describe body language as well as barking. Pits just seem super hyper, tails in constant motion, head butting your hand, and like I said climbing on you. I lived with the two before I was aware of the real dangers, and they were always that way. I've met many, many more who act like that. Tillie and the other dogs with fighting heritage I've met have been more docile, but I don't know if that' usually the case.
I don't hate the majority of bully breed dogs in this town. I hope they can live their whole lives without ever attacking a person or another animal. I do avoid them, for my and my son's safety. After all, while not all of them act like the designer devil dog, not all of them act like Tillie either. It's not worth the gamble and getting it wrong.