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Looks like Mr. Solesky, is it?
Done.
This is the funniest short film made since the Stooges were cranking them out decades ago.
Your typical Pit Bull "Low Information Expert"....Dissected.
Oscar nomination Please!
its supposed to be funny but its too real for that .
This is fantastic! And should go viral! This captures exactly how nutters' circular and insane arguments operate.
I have to agree with Snarky. As sarcastic as this is, we have heard all these arguments from actual pitters. They were not kidding.
It IS good to see something like this aimed at pit bull advocacy.
Yep, sad to say but all those quotes have been constantly repeated by pit nutters. Not just a few times either, they repeat it constantly.
Uncanny! I had the almost verbatum tit for tat with a nutter just last night on facebook. I'm always suprised how stupid they are, it would be funny, but people and animals are being harmed and are killed in the most horrible way, and all these evil people can come up with is OH WELL BAD THINGS HAPPEN! It's your fault too, you need to read up on dog behaviorism, I'm a vet tech and I know......
Vomit.
these people dont really have a lot they can say except for the lame and repugnant lies and excuses they find on the internet. when faced with victims and others who know what they are talking about , you dont say " shit happens " because we know that already and shit is a good name for all of it , the dogs , their owners and what together they do .
meals , it too was a real eye-opener for me to find out what pit-owners , defenders had to say for themselves .
How is being "educated" going to help when a pit "somehow" escapes and starts mauling you while you are taking a walk.
Being a vet tech doesn't appear to help either. How many pit lovin' "behaviorist" vet tech/AC workers have been killed by pits in their care? A bunch.
OH WELL! BAD THINGS HAPPEN,
Unreal.
what a terrible loss to humanity if ugly shitbulls ceased to exist except in the history books and shriveled hearts of pit droolers. ha ....no service maulers , no nanny dogs , no brindled dingbat bodyguards and no cool ghetto pigs for the dude who needs peer recognition .
so soooo sad .
Orangedog,
Lot's of dog industry maulings and breakdowns may be viewed here:
http://occupymaulstreet.blogspot.com/2012/11/animal-un-controlhave-animal-control.html
*Disclaimer...You Can't Make This Stuff Up!
Just imagine being a blind person with a guide dog. Walking with an animal you love that improves the quality of your life so much, yet feeling fear and helplessness if attacked.
Quoted comment from the article linked from here:
http://fourleggedfriendsandenemies.blogspot.com/2013/06/ten-guide-dogs-are-attacked-by-out-of.html
"Guide Dogs is far too polite. The charity knows very well that it is the Staffies/pitbull type dogs that are causing all the problems but is too politically correct to come out with the truth. They bring out these reports every year or so. Last time they did one I was working as a reporter on a local paper in London and they found me a blind man to talk to. He told me how he was absolutely terrified his beloved guide dog would be attacked and killed by Staffies, because it was happening so often to guide dogs belonging to his blind friends. He said he be unable to help his dog if the Staffie latched on. It's nonsense to say that ordinary dogs should be muzzled. Muzzle the Staffies, the weapon dogs, because those are the dogs that attack and with disastrous consequences. In the US they call these all weapon dogs pitbulls and so far this year there have been 15 people killed by dogs there - 14 of them by pitbulls."
as the gripping population continues to rise, more and more guide dogs will be killed or ruined. maybe we will see a rescue industry sprout.
here's a problem:
"That is why we are changing dangerous dog law to make it explicit that the owner of a dog that attacks a guide dog can be prosecuted."
the operative word here is CAN which means it first starts with the discretion of the police who seem more than willing to not pursue charges most of the time. it is a real shame that we can not have mandatory arrest charges (like we do in domestic violence calls) for certain attacks like children in the home of grippers, assaults on seniors and docile guide dogs. there is no way that even the most clever nutter lawyers like steven wise could spin an attack on a guide dog back onto the guide dog or its blind owner.
That really needs to be reworded to "shall be prosecuted".
A case of undefeatable nutterism:
http://fourleggedfriendsandenemies.blogspot.com/2013/06/stockton-woman-attacked-by-pit-bulls.html
"With bruises, bite marks, and more than 100 stitches all over her body, Samantha Williams isn't sure when she'll be able to walk on her own again, much less leave the hospital. From her hospital bed Williams described where two pit bulls bit her face, arm and leg."......."I've had pit bulls myself, and they could be the most loving things or they could be the most horrible things," Williams said. "I think it's what they're around and what they're taught and what they're allowed to do."
pitties can be very loving or very bad on occasion , lol
yes , well ted bundy was not all bad either , and hitler used to hand out sandwhiches to starving blonde children . as long as they saluted him and shook his hand first .
sorry butt,
if a nasty mutant attack and 100 stitches doesnt cure you of being a stupid cunt , nothin will.
OBTW , first nations say they have no money to spay and neuter.
therefore dangerous dogs must run feral in packs until DOG DAYS takes care of the problem .
some rescue groups want to put an end to dog days .
in the meantime , if you want a new dog from the dog shelter , chances are it has some mutant blood in it and it comes from a rez somewhere.
dubv, what a kook. samantha reminds me of the UFO nutter Marian Keech.
i consider this the next best thing to a darwin attack. too bad the state will likely end up paying her medical bills.
Real life lion tamer complex
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh95XA2bZ208q8r5XT
that idiot owner warned her not to be alone with the mutant , so he knew the thing was dangerous . he should have to pay her medical bills instead of the gullible public. just like others who really do know these dogs or at least know what they can be like , but still think its okay to take risks with other people and their animals . there are reasons why pits are so popular and i dont believe its all about ignorance of the breed . its like women who have a thing for felons in jail, it aint cuz theyre sweet and lovable .
Don't be alone in the house with Nanny - that's a trigger.
Dawn, I'm certain that you've already done this but I've not seen it. Do you have a list of all the "triggers" enumerated by pitiots following an "accident "? I remember pillows and ladders. I think that combined with the "set up to fail" situations exclusive to bulldogs would be epic. The nutters may not want to see the absurdity but most people still in reasonable contact with realty would get it.
ROFL Orangedog,
What's not a trigger when it comes to a pit bull dog? Everything sets them off, just a matter of when.
I've owned dogs for over 10 years and there were a few occasions I mistakenly left someone not familiar with them alone with my dog(s). When I got back I'm not sure who was more relieved to see me.
Needless to say, there were no nanny dog lock-on fight to the death mauling incidents. My dog(s) were merely agitated and confused which only led to some displays of nervousness from them towards my guest.
the dog fighters of olde , who arent dead from venereal disease or liver failure , must be laughing their collective smelly socks off , at what dingbats and yuppies are saying about their purpose bred maulers . if they were just honest or human enough to stand up and atone for what they have foisted on a gullible society , they would put to rest all the nonsense that is circulating like shit in a toilet bowl.
do nutters ever not have an explaination that they know to be fact?
like the dog that jumped a fence and attacked horses was just scared according to the breeder. like she knows it was this and not something else ? like no supervision so the dog did what just came natural.
pit triggers
GREAT PIT BULL EXPERT QUOTES IN HISTORY:
25 year old Pit Expert Samantha Williams, moments after she was rescued and before Stockton Stockholm Nutter Syndrome (SSNS) kicked in:
"Don't let me Die!!!"
BONUS QUOTE:
Pat Claerbout, supervisor of the Stockton Police Department's Animal Services:
"It is not just the fact that pit bulls bite more often, but when they do bite, it is the severity of the bite. We see Chihuahua bites all the time, but they are not capable of doing the damage of any large-breed dog."
PIT BULLS BITE MORE OFTEN?
SAYWHAT?!?......
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130612/A_NEWS/306120320/-1/rss02
* Disclaimer...You Can't Make This Up!
nutters say its always the owner, never the dogs . aside from being judgemental and a tad ignorant , i think this is tantamount to admitting that pit owners are very bad people. its like they are saying that pit owners must be bad people by the very fact they own a pitbull ...."but not me , im trying to rehabilitate the pitbulls tarnished reputation , im different ." lol at idiots
I like when they say, "It's not the dog, it's the owner." And then follow it up with, "It's my Chi you have to worry about, not my Pit."
Say wha?
So, you're a terrible Chi owner, but not a terrible Pit owner...
And they always, always have a Chi or have been bitten by one. It's like mandatory or something.
I saw a toddler at my workplace running in circles yelling what I thought was "Pit Bull! Pit Bull!" over and over. I now think it might have been "Tickle."
It's amazing how this blog gets to you after a while.
orangedog,
You made me think of the old pics of soldiers lined up to get vaccinated, but instead it was a bunch of pit nutters lined up to get their compulsory chi bite.
DubV, once you get your nasty Chi bite, you get a bandaid and a lollipop.
the difference is.. chi's are naturally vicious but ghetto pigs have to be trained to be mean. chi's and wiener dogs are satans gift to nutters so they know what to train their mutants to be like .
AN ORIGINAL SNARK
GREAT PIT BULL EXPERT QUOTES IN HISTORY (UPDATED):
After two days in the ICU and 4 more in regular Hospital bed, Samantha Williams now says:
"I don't think I want to be around them anymore. I don't like them. I don't think I'll own another one or date someone who owns a pit bull," Williams, 25, said Monday evening when asked how she feels about the dogs.
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130611/A_NEWS/306110318/-1/a_news02
lab mix and owner saves 2 kids from icy water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM7JnAvuYYA
Icy water makes pibble trigger, e.g. the baby sea lion.
pibble triggers should be avoided at all costs . a responsible pibble drooler should surf the internet and self -educate on pibble triggers in order to avoid terrible accidents .
pitbulls are satans gift to pyschopaths so they get to cause mayhem and suffering through the scape-goat of a dog . you just have to get to know the right pibble triggers , then stand back and watch the games begin . it explains why pibble fans stand off a distance away looking unconcerned when pibbles attacks .
vintage ,lol
samanatha williams finally concedes from her hospital bed : while pibbles can be very loving dogs .....a mean one can ruin your whole day .
also , since its always the owner , never the dog , its also safer not to date them. ..... the owner, not the dog .
or ....since its always the owner , never the dog , its safer to date the dog .
As soon as I saw this,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqkI691dxNg
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/360434/god-bless-you-captain-hindsight
I knew it applied to the nutters (Crosby, Toellner, Delise, et al) that explain away all pit attacks by creating a tangled web of contributing factors that simply aren't predictive for other breeds. Basically, their schtick is to state "this tragedy could've been avoided if the owner and everyone else involved was perfectly responsible, clairvoyant, and able to run out all combinations of various scenarios in their mind prior to the incident. therefore, it is not about the breed."
I dub them Captains of Hindsight.
hindsight is 20-20
pittersight is 100-100
i love south park. masters of political incorrectness.
love the video of rocky the distinguished looking lab up in edmonton too.
regarding lion tamer video, i would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see everyone of those big cats turn on those fucktards and reduce them to hamburger then get loose go after the idiots who pay to watch.
I HATE TO SEE WILD ANIMALS IN CAPTIVITY DOING DEMEANING TRICKS. IT'S SICKENING.
pibbles in costume ?
I liked that the owner ran to help the girls in the water and purposefully took his lab mix because he might be of help, and that was a fortunate choice.
imagine pibbles at the merritt mountain music festival, in court jester costume , going beserk an expressing its DNA . ITS THE OWNER , NEVER THE DOG .
Another awesome lab vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSywiwgC4Dk
ALL LABS DONT RETRIEVE BALLS AND DUCKS ....THATS IGNORANT ! !
ALL LABS DONT RETRIEVE BALLS AND DUCKS ....THATS IGNORANT ! !
sorry for the double posting but i wus trying to act like a brainless drooling pitophile
pit do-gooder quote of the day :
"pit owners are very bad people , but im different .....im trying to rehabilitate the pit bulls tarnished reputation ."
also ....never leave kiddies or menstruating visitors alone with nanny dog .
all dogs bite , its just that nannies bite harder and dont stop till you're dead .
rehabilitated pibble drooler quote of the day
: dont think i will own one or date a pibble lover until my wounds heal .
book of asinine pibble drooler quotes?
iooo hilarious and infuriating remarks made by pibble droolers in distress?....in the hospital , the police booking area , the court room and the funeral home celebration of life room .
dogs should be allowed temper tantrums ?
heather , not when theyre satans gift to psychopaths .
ankle biters maybe .
your dog bites someone , so should your dog bite you . if pibbles refuses , you can buy an icepick from k-mart for $5.99
Thanks Dawn, this and famous pitnutter quotes should be compiled into a booklet. Entertainment for the warped humor crowd.
warped humor aside , debbie bell has a unique approach to dog owner responsibility . you have to do to yourself whatever your dog does to someone or animal , within reason.
so your dog takes an eye , so you must also lose an eye. your ankle biter nips an ankle , you also must be nipped . applys to all dogs and owners
problem solved ! brilliant debbie
DubV,
Regarding Captain Hindsight. Who could predict picking up a pillow would trigger a pit bull to attack its owner and after a struggle the roommate finally shoots it in the middle of the living room floor. Doubt even Captain Hindsight would have seen that one. Yes, it's happened. LOL!
I have to admit, I wish there was a Youtube video of that kill or be killed nanny dog struggle.
The pit bull in my puppy class (not playing with my dog anymore) is growing fast. It needed 3 time outs during play time because it gets locked on target. I don't understand the people who adopted it. They went looking for a Lab and they were told this mutant was a lab/boxer. It's obvious now that it is a pit bull. Why did they keep it? They have two younger children who they wanted a Lab for. Now they have something could kill their kids. I don't get it.
When it can't get to another dog, it redirects onto the person holding it. Sure, it's little puppy teeth and it's mostly just mouthing now, but ugh.
more kids chewed this morn in the news .....and the dingbats always say bad, bad owner , poor pibbles . so..oooooo sad .
when will these pibble droolers see that its not all about them , its about the real victims , not the bad owners and their innocent monsters .
we dont give a shit about them and their pibbles .
OD,
Whoever teaching your puppy socialization class is incompetent to allow this pit puppy's DNA driven behavior.
This is ugly and may well get uglier.
Snarky, you are on a roll here.
April, yeah she made a point of saying how she wasn't biased and that it was "stupid owners". Obviously I disagree. Since it isn't playing with my puppy, I am using the opportunity to study "good pibble owners" in the wild. These people are doing the right stuff - early socialization, training, not naming it Chaos or Killer - but the pit is still acting on its genes and if anything has gotten worse since the day it showed up. I think this dog will probably end up back in the shelter system when it hits maturity. These people needed a Lab. I can tell they feel like they are in over their heads, but pride or something else keeps them going. They are figuring out that it's not all butterfly farts and rainbows in pit bull land, but they will stick with it because they are "good owners". Right, if the pittie is acting out then they must be doing something wrong and perhaps more bellyrubs will fix the problem.
good article (so far anyways, still reading it) here
http://actavet.vfu.cz/pdf/200776030431.pdf
by Houpt
Orangedog,
Sounds like their game-bred Labrador puppy turned out to be a game-bred pit bull dog. LOL!
Don't you want to just roll your eyes at them when their pit bull puppy starts getting it on with the other pups?
Maybe there's an opening in the Michael Vic pit bull puppy training class at the Bad Newz Kennels or are they all sold out? Tell them to at least apply for it.
Who ever *is* teaching your puppy socialization class.
Sheesh, need to proof read... sorry.
Dawn, I would have thought this thread would have had trolls crawling all over it by now. Where did they all go? Have you blocked them all? It seems awfully quiet here especially in the presence of so much bait.
no i am not blocking nutters. snarky has been asking for something to snack on.
April, the instructor will pick the pit up and give it a "time out" when it starts locking on, so she seems to know what is going on. I can tell because it goes into a direct stare mode, and the other puppies start reacting to it. I am convinced that most pit owners really think the other dog "started it" because they are oblivious to the forced eye contact that sends normal dogs into protection mode. Unfortunately, these owners are not picking up on the signs either. Puppy class is 5 weeks. What happens when the class is over? :/
I just realized that I only shared this with Dawn, and I thought to myself, "Self, this is just too good to not share with the other haterz."
I bet you thought there was nothing that nutters could do to surprise you anymore. Well, prepare to be shocked and appalled.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=347298692040413&set=a.234628396640777.34351.234389033331380&type=1&theater
Thanks OD, I'm so relieved to read they've not yet attacked a children in that trailer.
"I am using the opportunity to study "good pibble owners" in the wild."
hahaha
"I can tell because it goes into a direct stare mode, and the other puppies start reacting to it."
oh, i so envy you. i'd give anything to be in your shoes.
"Unfortunately, these owners are not picking up on the signs either."
the beauty of being a normal dog owner. you don't need to be a freaking animal behaviorist.
I know right? What a relief.
Gotta love all the "SO CUTE!" high fives. This bad parent earned enough street cred with the pibble pushers to last for years. Unless the pit eats the baby, in which case they will throw her under the bus for letting the pit near the baby.
What a wacky world.
My last comment was for TS.
Dawn, you could come here on a safari. I only have 3 or 4 classes left though so hurry before they escape back to the suburbs. ;)
OD, the bulldog pup is already locking eyes? At that young an age he's likely to crack off very quickly. You may get to witness him doing more than "play fighting ". Dogs practice as pups what their breeding directs them to do. Sure all puppies tussle with one another in play but they DON'T take a hold. If it's already doing this make sure you've got someone with a camera standing by (an a break stick wouldn't be a bad idea).
Oh yeah! He was 9 weeks old when I first saw him and he got into two fights with another male puppy - teeth and snarling - and had to be separated. The other puppy was afraid of him and would go into defensive posturing when the pit would stare. Some rescue pulled the old Boxer/Lab switcheroo on these people. It's all pit bull, and a dead game little bugger it seems.
I had my stupid phone with me today and totally forgot to film "play time". I will try to get some footage next week.
When I see bad/dangerous dog behavior, especially pit bulls, I usually just ask, "What's wrong with your dog?" I either get a nasty look or a shrug and a smile, maybe a request for help.
Pit nutters hate when I ask that question. Never got a smile from a pit nutter with that question. LOL!
OD, next time the pit bull pup does that, just ask them what's wrong with their dog. LOL!
Sounds like it's obvious to the trainer.
You'll only know if one's game by putting something bigger, tougher and rougher on him that'll put him on his back and keep him there. If he's willing to scratch after being beat to shit for a while you can maybe call him game. What he is is a hot pup that really ought to be euthanized before the problems start. The adopters are obviously trying to do all the right things and have made a commitment to the dog. Those are high positive signs in owners, to bad they got suckered on the dog. Nothing they do can change the little bulldog into "not a bulldog" and that's really sad. A complete waste of people who would be excellent owners of a normal dog.
They do have him playing with a much larger dog now and he got put on his back more than a few times. He never got a chance to lock on today because one of the trainers was hovering the entire time (thankfully) and would pick him up as soon as he started to lock. That happened 3 times that I saw. The one time the owner pulled him away, he chewed on her arm in frustration. That worried me. Just puppy teeth - for now. So he didn't manage to progress to fighting, but he tried more times this week.
What sucks is these people would have been a great home for any normal dog - like the Lab they wanted. But some stupid rescue has to lie and pawn off an unwanted pit bull and they may never trust a rescue again. I know I'd be pissed as hell. This is why I think rescues like this need to be sued into the ground when one of their "Boxer/Labs" goes berzerk.
I could agree more OD. When these assholes start getting hit hard in the wallet this will stop. These people should have been able to get what they wanted, they sound as if they would have given that right dog a great home. When the large dog the bulldog is now playing with gets him down how does he react? Does he attempt to escalate? And he's at this point redirecting on the owners? Do they think this is normal canine behavior? Have the trainers said nothing? I realize my background makes all of this just too obvious to me but really any trainer if not owner should see this behavior as aberrational, especially in a puppy.
Oh hell, that should be couldn't agree more.
A few posts up you'll see the only comment the instructor made was to make sure they knew she wasn't prejudiced against pit bulls. No one tells them why their puppy is the only one who gets picked up and held for several minutes untIl it calms down. The pit attempts to escalate which is why they were all hovering and watching him like a hawk. None of the other dogs get this level of scrutiny, but hey everything is cool because the trainer isn't biased. No one, starting with the rescue, has been honest with this family.
What a shame. Well intentioned people trying to do everything right and no one clues them in. They'll be horrified and saddened when this little time bomb finally goes off for real and everyone will be slamming them, especially the nutter community. Maybe they should receive an anonymous heads up letter advising them in advance that it's not their fault, they will have done nothing wrong, it's just genetics.
Sometimes the best way to out a pit nutter is to regurgitate the same crap pit nutters do.
Orangedog, you can always throw in some pit nutter quotes as questions to the trainer. Maybe the trainer will refer your questions to a pit bull expert, you know, a vet tech.
Another thing, I think it should be mandated that any kennel or rescue who deal with pit bulls needs to have a panic alarm system to prevent any nanny dog fight to the death tragic accidents. They also need to have video cameras so I can watch nanny dogs doing the nanny thing on Youtube.
I still remember watching this Brazilian video on Youtube where the pit bull owner gets nannified by his pit bull dog. I did learn something from watching that video. Human blood contrasts very well on white concrete and the Brazilian sun will bake the blood into the concrete.
those poor do-gooders , soon to be cruzified for believing in false god dogs . maybe cezar could save them from irresponsible dog ownership and the label of such by the pit-droolers.
i wish them luck
I could definitely see these people on the Dog Whisperer (if it were still on). They have that whole "what have we gotten into" vibe.
oh noooooo
little smiling cesar not eaten by one of his yard dogs?
just saw a proud new owner walking her baby mauler.
i wish her luck that its a dud but its probably not . it may not turn mutant for a while but eventually it show thats its another GOOD pitbull.
funny that, but BAD pitbulls are also GOOD pitbulls.
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