Sunday, December 22, 2013

My Theory on why Pitbull advocates are ‘Nutters’


"Anyone can become angry. That is easy. But to be angry with the right person, to the right degree, at the right time, for the right purpose and in the right way - that is not easy." – Aristotle


A few years ago, I experienced a serious pitbull attack that led to countless personal losses, I found myself outraged at the system that had enabled such attacks to occur in the first place. I mean isn’t Government supposed to protect innocent people from such unnecessary brutal and violent assaults? It didn’t take long for me to discover why, I soon learned there was an aggressive and outraged pitbull advocacy movement that had influenced Government and prevented reasonable protective legislation from being implemented. So I turned to social media to interact with these people, only to realize that they felt they were the aggrieved party, even though they had suffered no permanent  physical injury, as I had,  they had not lost the ability to walk or care for themselves for a substantial amount of time, as I had, they had suffered no large financial losses, as I had, they had never faced years of legal wrangling to seek compensation for their losses, as I had and they had not lost their business as I had.  The only loss it appears they had incurred is that people hurt their feelings because they were critical of the breed of dog they had chosen as a companion animal.  And yet their outrage was as if someone had murdered their entire family.  This disproportionate over reaction struck me as incredibly bizarre and until now I hadn’t been able to understand it sufficiently.


read the rest of Max Gold's story at

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Don't know if you saw but Steve Markwell packed up the dogs in a semi in the middle of the night and is on the road. Some dude named Robert Misseri of Guardians of Rescue is helping him and they'll be coming to a home maybe near you soon. Check out the criminal background on him. This is what the nutter world has become or was all along.

dawn james said...

thank you for the name anon. i have been looking into this for the last hour or so. someone left this lengthy comment this morning and then someone else went me an email that he was on the lam.

dawn james said...

woops. "someone else SENT me an email..."



LOL! THE MOB! OUTFUCKINGSTANDING!

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2009_11_01_archive.html

http://www.leagle.com/decision/2000440118FSupp2d322_1409

https://www.facebook.com/robert.misseri

dawn james said...

FYI, i don't think it BECAME this. i think it has always been this. sadly. the animals are the ones to suffer.

Packhorse said...

I do think that nutters project themselves onto their pit bulls. It's either, "I am damaged, misunderstood, and hated;" or for a different type of owner "I am tough, scary and violently unpredictable."

And then of course there is the "Look at me, I am selfless and unprejudiced, I adopted this breed no one wants."

Any way you cut it, it's nothing about the dog.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. The unifying theme is "Look at me, lookatmelookatmelookatme!"
As Max Gold so astutely stated, childish in origin and in expression.

Packhorse said...

Here is a question. Are there any books out there that take a critical look at pit nutterisms?

I have read "The 100 Silliest Things People Say About Dogs" and "Successful Dog Adoption." I have also read the e-book "Extreme Breeds."

Is that really all there is?

dawn james said...

aside from the handful of studies done on people and dangerous dogs, i am not aware of any. but if you find one, let me know. i think the best way to understand these freaks is to read about psychopaths and cluster B personality disorders. but also reading about the workings of the brain and how people fool themselves will shed light on the topic.

the books i've read that help explain rank and file pit nutters and the machiavellians operating at the higher levels of pit bull advocacy:

THE TRUE BELIEVER by Eric Hoffer

YOU ARE NOT SO SMART by David McRaney

HOW WE KNOW WHAT ISN'T SO by Thomas Gilovich

THE BELIEVING BRAIN by Michael Shermer

UNSPUN by Brooks Jackson and Kathleen Jamieson Hall

DOUBT IS THEIR PRODUCT by David Michaels

WOMEN WHO LOVE MEN WHO KILL by Sheila Isenberg

WOMEN WHO LOVE PSYCHOPATHS by Sandra Brown

HIGH CONFLICT PEOPLE by Bill Eddy

THE OBJECT OF MY AFFECTION IS MY REFLECTION by Rokelle Lerner

WITHOUT CONSCIENCE by Robert Hare

THE MASK OF SANITY by Hervey Cleckley

MALIGNANT SELF LOVE by Sam Vaknin

VIOLENT ATTACHMENTS by J Reid Meloy

THE PSYCHOPATHIC MIND by J Reid Meloy

THE ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITIES by David Lykken

THE CULTURE OF NARCISSISM by Christopher Lasch

COLD BLOODED KINDNESS by Barbara Oakley

PATHOLOGICAL ALTRUISM by Barbara Oakley

EVILS GENES by Barbara Oakley

tropical storms said...

I think nutters identify with the dogs in the same way as dogfighters . The I am a seriously fucked up pathetic human with major mental health issues. Mess with me and I'll hurt you or find someone who can relationship.

Sputnik2009 said...

I think Max Gold did a great job of analyzing what's wrong with a certain contingent of nutters. I like the book list that supplements this with the narcissistic and the psychopathic contingents (thanks!).

Whichever way, they are all full of resentment and full of aggression / passive aggression towards the world. They all of them feel the world isn't giving them their due (not satisfying any number of infantile wishes they have) and want revenge for that. As Anonymous 8:31 said, lookatmelookatmelookatme, which covers all of them, from the psychopaths to the supposedly respectable middle-class supposedly altruistic ones. They all of them like it when their maulers hurt something or someone...though a few become 'reformed' if it's their own child or mother that gets hurt.

Owning any pit bull type dog is a such a sure sign of malevolent mental disturbance, it could well be used as a criterion for committing people even before any other signs are shown.

'All' isn't a word I'd use lightly; this is well-considered and based on more experience than anyone would want (and which too many of us have).

PutMeInCharge4OneDay said...

I was at the emergency hospital with my cat the other night.

I arrived and in the waiting room was a couple.

I immediately did "owner profiling" in my head.
The woman was a big gal, in her 50's with lavender hair and multiple piercings (I had no idea you could get that much stuff on one ear).
The man had a shaved head and lots of tattoos.

Immediately I decided they had to own a pit bull.

Sure enough when their dog was finally brought out it was a pit bull mix.

dawn james said...

i think max gold did a great job at identifying the group of nutters that aggressively attack pit bull victims. i've never seen the dog fighting psychopaths engage in that behavior nor have i seen the machiavellians (polished intelligent non-violent psychopaths with impulse control) like ledy engage in that behavior. although, who knows, in her spare time, ledy could be logging in as one of the many whacked out creepy fur mommies we regularly encounter.


50 years old with lavender hair and lots of piercings plus tatted out boyfriend... one of the revelations in one of the books that i read was the difficulty that narcissists have with aging.

Packhorse said...

Dawn,
Thank you for the impressive book list.

This one also looks like it may be promising.

Red Zone: The Behind-the-Scenes Story of the San Francisco Dog Mauling
Aphrodite Jones

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Zone-Behind---Scenes-Francisco/dp/B0002TX4DE/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1388065041&sr=1-1&keywords=aphrodite+jones+dog

Packhorse said...

PutMeinCharge,

Makes me think about what these people did before pit bulls became so common and the cause du jour. I'm guessing they owned other, albeit far less dangerous, "shock pets" such as tarantulas, snakes and scorpions.

Anonymous said...

Guardian Pitbull Rescue in texas is the nut job that posted information on his blog and facebook pages and enlisted the help of nutters to get the Houston event canceled by threatening the lives of workers at the park.

Anonymous said...

I don't think nutters are spineless followers who want attention from their pitbull ownership and they want to feel like they belong to the cool group.. which they think is the pitbull owners.. thanks to television.. I know many people who had rotten childhoods that are not into pitbulls...There are probably many types of psychological issues that make up nutters.

Anonymous said...

My pit bull is a Work of Art
And so am I
Made up in whole or equal part
Of police reports and body parts
Detached, reattached, rearranged.
detained. unexplained
hated by the ignorant, but by everyone admired
Maybe we look like a tenement's curse, we are never too tired
To bless this world with a beauty new and avant-daring
Tattoos limned in decomposing ink
or blood-globs scattered and sirens blaring
We bring it to you, plebians, and vanish without thanks
Attended by the harp-like twang
Of my Pit bulls suddenly-attached shank
And the percussive tread of my designer-shoes in choreographed
Exuent
And later I'll come to immortalize
the elucidating event
With accelerant paint in plien-air containers
That will delight first my nose and with the remainder
Will historically record on wall and park bench
The challenge, the frenzy, the flowage in the trench
Or gutter, think you of minds more prosaic
As with my master' s tools, I create Art Elegaic
And my pit bull looks on, loose and free,
With a face that demands paint and
some falling masonry
For he is my muse, and he drives my obsession
To alter or destroy every bourgeoise life and possession
And he does this, yes, in spite of frequent indigestion
For I and my pit bull are like one
And Death and Art are never done.



dawn james said...

excellent poem! i will share it with max.

packhorse, i picked up red zone used a couple of years ago but still have not read it. that attack is in the top ten of worst attacks ever.


"I don't think nutters are spineless followers who want attention from their pitbull ownership and they want to feel like they belong to the cool group."

i don't believe in absolutes so i would agree somewhat with the above and i would say not ALL nutters are spineless attention seeking whores.