Monday, June 11, 2012

out of the labyrinth



i can't remember when i started researching this topic. i started writing it late last december. i really hate going into the dog fighting world. every time i go there looking for answers, i get lost in it. before i know it, it's 4 am and i have forgotten what it was that i was looking for.

after at least a half a dozen missed, self imposed deadlines, the man-biters were culled myth has finally been busted.

thank you for being patient.

15 comments:

snarky said...

people will defend their pitbull monstrosities no matter what or who they attack and kill. even with proof of aggression and viciousness the typical pitophile owner will beat around the bush trying excuse themselves and their mutants and why should we be surprised at this ? even pit owners are not so dumb as to not know what they have . would someone choose this kind of dog and then be aghast when it bites someone or wantonly kills someones pet?

april 29 said...

Well worth the wait!! The "Best Ever" link is some fine reading.

Thank you.

Opalina said...

I spent some time looking at the FB pages that you linked to. Ack Ack Ack! I wonder if law enforcement is using these pages to get info in order to bust these dogfighters? I got lost in the comments and going ot other "game dog" fb pages, and was up much too late! It filled my head and I had a hard time sleeping. I stumbled upon a "discourse" between a rescue angel and a dogman. The drivel she spouted takes the cake as the most ignorant comment ever regarding fighting dogs. As usual, she gave a long list of her "credentials" in order to give validity to her "expert" opinion, to include, as usual, "Vet tech". (Why are all these freaking rescue angels vet techs who are savaged by every breed they treat except "pitties?") I may try to find that comment and post in its entirety, but basically she said that dogs are only bred for looks, not for certain tasks, and that it is the owners that choose the task the dog will learn. She spouted this crap to justify her position that pit bulls are no different than any other dog. At least the dogman she was arguing with was honest about the breed.

Great work, and I appreciate all the time and effort you all put into all of your exposes!

Your Quiet Neighbor said...

I've heard that police departments monitor sites that are frequented by gang members. And this includes social media sites.

So, it wouldn't take them too much effort to extend their monitoring to online dogfighter hangouts.

DubV said...

Comments on the truth blog aren't functioning.

This man-biters were culled myth is similar to the nanny dog myth in that the pit nutters hold the burden of proof, the nutters have not met it, and they are unaware of any of this.

Dawn has done a great job showing copious examples of famous non-culled man-biters. Where are the nutters' examples of culling that they insist exist? They are simply asserting and circulating it, like the nanny dog myth, until all sites reference each other in a circle, but none actually give evidence. Instead, they usually claim an argument that dogmen must've been smart enough to not want bitten, were capable of producing dogs that were selectively highly aggressive, and weren't smart enough to figure out how to muzzle a dog or manage its ferocity another way.

Come on nutters, show us all the evidence that man-biters were culled and that this is something that dogmen generally agreed to do and actually did.

Until then, the culling man-biters meme is in the same class as the nanny dog myth: something that nutters came up with as a reason for people to be okay with having fighting dogs in their communities.

skeptifem said...

Jeez that was a shit ton of manbiter spawn, I would not have expected such a wealth of evidence. Good work!

dawn james said...

dubv, i have been closing comments on the truth blog after they been up a couple of months. do you favor opening them all back up?

DubV said...

I meant on the latest. I commented once successfully, and then tried for another and it took me to a page that looked like code.

dawn james said...

i suspect that is just one of many blogger bugs.

dawn james said...

i just did a test comment. no problems.

DubV said...

If anyone has the stomach to frequent pit bull forums, then it would be interesting to read how they respond to the truth blog and other debunking. My prediction is that it is similar to a cult's response to criticism: ignore or if it is brought up don't address anything but act like it is beneath everyone and write that it should be ignored for reasons x, y, and z.

Miss Margo said...

DubV: I read pitbull-chat and game-dog from time to time. The reactions I've seen to CD, the Truth blog, and Dogsbite are: 1) "I hate that site it's full of lies" 2) I refuse to waste my time on it 3) the person/people who wrote it are mentally ill 4) we should shut it down, it should not be allowed to exist.

DubV said...

Thanks Miss Margo, yet they aren't specific? In their heads it's more like:

"Mah dog! Those people are saying things about mah dog! Mah dog isn't like them others! He's mah dog!"

dawn james said...

i've seen some of those fun conversations about me and colleen. in fact, i collect them.


"Mah dog!"

that's so primitive, so accurate, so hysterical.

DubV said...

I think a better spelling would be

"Mah dawg!"