Wednesday, June 26, 2013

what would you do?

a craven reader sent me this:

I’m curious to know how other pit victim supporters react in these everyday situations involving pits:

What do you do when you run into a pit bull somewhere like a pet supply store, dog festival, or dog park? Do you say anything to the owner? To others in the area?

Does it make any difference if the pit bull is an adult or a puppy? Does it make any difference if there are kids with the owner, or even kids walking the dog?

I’m curious what others would do. Here are a few scenarios that I’ve seen recently:

CASE 1) A middle-class woman and her children are at a local pet supply place with their friendly pit puppy. Everybody else at the store (also middle-class) comes up to oooh and aaah at it, pet it, say how much they LOVE pits, and how they want their own next dog to be a pit TOO. Admirers include families with toddlers and young children, and other people with dogs.

Would you join in petting the friendly little puppy? Ignore it and walk past? Start a discussion of how dangerous pits can be when they grow up?

What if the owner of the pit puppy asks point blank if their (friendly, 3 month old) puppy can come over and meet your dog? At what age of puppy/adult dog would the answer ALWAYS be no?

CASE 2) You’re at a large annual dog fest with over 1000 dogs. The fest has been going on for 20 years and has never had an injury due to a fight. All of the pits present are well behaved, and none seem aggressive towards people or other pets. As you wait in endless lines for food and events, you notice several small dogs in line are going up to sniff and play with pit bulls who are also waiting in line. The dogs are so close that their leashes are even getting tangled. Neither the pit owners nor the small dog owners are paying any attention to their dogs. Most are busy watching contests or looking up the line.

Would you ignore the pits and assume that they must be reliable? Walk away from each line as soon as a pit bull joins it? (Or not even go to a festival that has pits in attendance?) Warn the small dog owners to pick up their dogs and keep them away from the pit bull? Get your break stick out of your pocket “just in case”?

CASE 3) You’re at a mountain look-out. Nearby is a biker-looking couple walking a large pit bull that is straining at his locked Flexi.

Do you say anything to the pit owners? If so, do you snark about how irresponsible they are to have a pit on a Flexi? Or make a friendly approach and offer it as a “gentle suggestion”? On your way down the trail to the parking lot, do you warn people with kids and/or dogs about the dangerous dog up ahead?

I’m curious how others handle these real-life situations. I’m looking for things people would REALLY do (or have done in similar situations), not things you WISHED you could do if you had the nerve.


Anonymous said...

i imagine i send vibes of poisonous hostility , but not being an in your face kinda guy i probably wouldnt say much to the dark skinned rapper dude with mutant..... or the inbread cracker scum. i knowns what sum o dem dudes r like . plus i usually got my bait dog wid me .

DubV said...

My first reaction is always protection of self and whomever I most care for, which in a crowd of strangers would be my dog if he is with me.

My honest reaction would be to avoid the pit bull and its owner at all costs, especially if my dog or another human is with me. I would only offer advice or say something about pits if I were directly asked.

In these situations, there would be little good I could do and the easiest and best thing for myself is preservation.

I have yelled obscenities about pit bulls to a small crowd before, but that was a much different scenario than what you have described.

The only time I speak openly about pits in real life is among relatives and friends or if a "teaching moment" presents itself. I write all pit bull owners off as impervious to any information I could give them while they are enjoying their dog.

Alexandra said...

CASE 1) a) In a public place, without my dogs with me, a pit bull puppy being cooed over, I would (and have) commented on what it will be by the time it's 16 weeks old, namely a danger to all other living things. I've then informed the shop owner they've lost my business as long as they allow this type of dog in the place.
CASE 1) b) With my dogs, public place or not, I tell anyone who tries to approach with any pit bull type dog (no matter that bulldog's age) to keep it away from me and my dogs...or else I will, and they won't like how I do that.
The pit / bulldog types are sometimes abnormally aggressive already at the age of five weeks. Not dangerous at the very small stages, but all the same, I like to get the 'we shun you' message across. And 'Your ugly gripper pup isn't cute, it's repulsive'.
A third reason is that my adult dogs often react by trying to discipline a pit / bulldog puppy's abnormal hyper behavior...and the cretin with the pit bull always gets upset, grabs the pup protectively, calls my dogs aggressive...and has an excuse for later when its gripper kills. You know, 'traumatized as a pup by grown-up dogs'.

CASE 2) I don't attend events where they allow grippers. Don't want them to have a cent of my money.

CASE 3) a) Alone on a mountaintop with a couple of psychopathic morons and their lethal weapon, I take DubV's approach. Begone when I see them in the distance, try to avoid them and their killer even seeing me (whether I have my dogs with me or not). They will do the most sick things when there are no witnesses.
CASE 3) b) Having left the area, I have often and still do warn others that someone is in the park / on the mountaintop with a pit bull. Some people look at me like I'm a crazy person talking to herself, proceed with dog and/or children in the direction of the gripping bulldog. Oh well, at least I tried. Others give me a grateful 'thank you!' and do an about face with their dog and/or children.

orangedog said...

I try to avoid them at all costs. I try to talk people down from getting them and refute the lies if they start spouting myths.
I don't talk to people who already have one. I figure it's a lost cause.
If I see someone out walking one while I am with my dog. I turn around and try to put stuff between us before the pit notices my dog. Even still, I had an owner with a pit who thought it was funny to let his pit drag him toward my dog. I can't stand these people.

Incredulous said...

I would never pet or coo over a pit puppy. I wouldn't go out of my way to try to educate the owner (they already bought the thing, too late) but if someone asked, I'd speak up.

I would never let a pit of any age interact with my dogs. My tactic is to leave the scene, when I spot one even far away.

I would never attend a dog festival because nowadays, it's guaranteed there will be hundreds of grippers there.

And the mountaintop scenario -- I'd turn and leave and warn others. Maybe we should all start carrying pepper spray or stun guns. I just had a situation happen on the beach -- deserted beach on Fishers Island, NY -- my boyfriend and I were walking with our Lab and Jack Russell mix (on leashes thank god). The single sunbather we saw had a freaking pit bull OFF LEASH - she heard us coming (I guess we were talking loud enough) and she popped up off her blanket, looking startled and quickly put her ugly dog on a leash, then glared at us in her bikini as we walked (FAST) down the beach. We returned a different way. I didn't say anything to her, I just fumed.

Anonymous said...

Awwwww... poor pibble-people:

Love it-- suffer, biotch!

Anonymous said...

shit , we more or less all said the same things , dem dogs and owners should be avoided , like the dangerous wanted suspect not approach.

pretty hard to get to know a shitbull when they are too risky to approach .

Anonymous said...

anyone here reluctant to complain about the nasty chi that nearly took your hand off at the wrist ? i hear they can be very loving with their owners though. blame the deed not the breed. chihuahuas are obviously trained to be mean. no dog is born bad , just people are born bad . pitbulls are also all born sweet and bad people abuse them and train them to fight. when a chi rips a childs face off , the owner should be put down instead and the chi should go to a small dog sanctuary to live out its life in a small secure cage .

Lucy Muir said...

I don't go to stores that welcome pit bulls.

The mountain top scenic overlook, I have done what others said in similar situations on beach and trail scenarios, just try to avoid the idiotic psychos with mutant and no witnesses - leave as quickly as possible. On the way out, I have warned people, I would feel so guilty if I didn't at least warn them. and most have turned around. Funny how when push comes to shove… I have no doubt that some of those people who turned around would argue "its all how you raise em" at a backyard party.

Dayna said...

I always glare at the idiots with their grippers. In the case w/my neighbor who would let her pit mix run off leash, I told her point blank her dog must be on a leash, when she ignored me I called AC and they informed her of the fine when dog is off leash. On the street I always carry pepper spray and a knife and make my children walk on the other side of me or I have them step inside till the ugly thing is gone. I'm wary about talking directly to owners because I know how psychotic they can be. I did yell at one woman who could barely control her huge pit when it lunged at my dog. I try to educate non pit owners when I can.

Dayna said...

Oh, and at ANY age it is NOT ok for a gripper to get near my dog or children, and I don't mind telling them why.

april 29 said...

One day last week I was riding my horse in the park. On a narrow stretch of trail, pine forest, both sides of the trail are lined with poison ivy there is a guy with two dogs on flexi leashes. The dogs are all over the place and he is about 50 feet away. One of these dogs is a gripper and going berserk. He calls out "I'm sorry he is so excited. I'll get him over to the side of the trail so you can get by." My response "don't bother, the horse was attacked by a pit bull and I won't have a pit bull anywhere near him. I will just turn around and go home." His response... wait for it... "he is not a pit bull, he is an American Staffordshire Terrier." One can only hope that he got a raging case of poison ivy off his dogs.

Packhorse said...

1.)a. Walk by and ignore the group.
b. Say no and say something neutral like, I don't want the dogs getting riled up.

2.) I'd call out to the owners, "Look out! Your dogs are getting tangled!" and hope they noticed what was happening.

3.) I wouldn't say anything to the owners. If I saw people with kids/dogs coming up the trail, I'd warn them about a "big dog looking like it might be aggressive." I wouldn't name the breed because I wouldn't want to chance getting into it with a nutter.

Branwyne Finch said...

LOL, I am not sure what the writer of the e-mail wants to hear. The fictional "middle-class woman with children at local pet supply with friendly pit puppy" is a scenario I have never encountered, and I am 51 and have been going to pet supply stores for the past decade. Perhaps the author has a very liberal interpretation of what constitutes a middle class family?

But I will attempt to answer...scenario one and two, I simply avoid anyone with a pit bull, dog or puppy. I don't smile, make eye contact, or acknowledge them in any way. If possible I cross the street, and make sure my dog never comes into contact with any bully breed of any age. Most people who get a potentially dangerous breed of dog WANT attention, either positive or negative; if they weren't attention seeking, they wouldn't have gotten a pit bull.

In the third scenario, I would also leave, and would also warn other walking down the path of the potential danger. In fact, most of us "normal dog" owners warn each other about the homes with pit bulls. Most "middle class" educated parents don't want their kids playing in a home that has a pit bull, so I have called a friend to let her know that their is a pit bull in a home, and she should consider that fact if her child is invited to a play date there. That pit bull went on to bite someone.

I don't use dog parks, but if I did and anyone arrived with a bully breed, I would leave....I would also make sure to tell other non-bully breed owners at the park why I was leaving, and what I witnessed years ago when I watched a pit bull kill another dog in an unprovoked attack.

But back to the fictitious "middle class mom with kids" who owns that adorable pit bull puppy....why have I never met her? The only family I know that comes close was the family of my child's classmate, whose pit puppy was oh-so-adorable, raised with three kids and another dog, brought to street fairs and walked and "socialized", allowed to run off leash at the playground after school, because she was SO friendly! She ended up killing the older family dog, then biting someone in the face.

It's all how you raise them!

Anonymous said...

Re: the fictitious "middle class mom with kids" who owns that adorable pit bull puppy....why have I never met her?

Maybe because you don't live in the PNW?

Had a friend who, years ago, got a dog then had to move (divorce) and asked to leave her new "Lab Mix" with me on the farm for awhile. The gal is a computer programmer, making serious coin and the daughter of an Retired Air Force general/Airline pilot, so definitely well within the Middle Class by any definition.

Do I have to tell the rest of the story?

When she pulled up with her new dog, one I'd never seen before, my first words were "OMG, it's a pit bull". Kept the dog for her for a year or so until she and her daughters moved into their newly purchased suburban home.

Fortunately, she came to her senses and had the dog put down shortly after that. (Kind of annoying because she blamed the dogs behavioral problems to us having to contain it on leash or chained ALL. THE. TIME. It was a total spaz. I swear I used ever training technique known to man to get the freaking thing to just SIT while I was feeding it.) Of course, the kids were devastated.

I don't fault her for the initial mis-identification, however, as the woman has serious vision issues, is NOT an animal person and she and her kids adopted it from the local humane society after being told it was a "Lab Mix".

Why is it we can't sue these organizations for lying about the animals they adopt?

Anonymous said...

It's hard to find the balance between civility and safety. I used to be very quick to pull out my wicked sharp pointy serrated combat knife at the sight of an approaching pit bull, but that tended to freak people out. Not that that's a bad thing, but I've learned to hold my cards a little closer. In any case, I instinctively verify that my knife is there when I see a pit bull. My dog, being normal, is curious and social and will approach other dogs, so if she's with me, I have to warn her loudly and sternly "You stay away from that thing!".

S.K.Y. said...

Hi guys,

I'm the one who came up with this topic. Dawn kept me anonymous, but I don't mind "coming out."

I'm super happy to see all the responses. The reason I came up with the topic is that I'm normally very friendly, outgoing, and positive. But in the pit related scenarios in this post, I turned into a bit of a Mr. Hyde.

In Case 1, I started citing my usual litany of pit bull bite statistics, saying that pits were dangerous to have in families with kids, etc. I then felt bad later to have ruined the day of a mom and kids just out for a nice day at the pet store.

As others have pointed out here, it's also too late to convince the people who OWN the pit... though I was helping to influence the group of admirers. Instead, I probably made them want a pit even MORE, because I vilified a "cute" 3 month old puppy who was obviously friendly to everybody and all the other dogs at the store.

In Case 2, I snatched up my own dog and muttered loudly to anybody listening about the "dangerous pit bull waiting in line with normal dogs." In this case, I looked like a jerk, because all the pits were that rare 1% of pits that are reliable and friendly with people & dogs. The pits in line just hung out while small dogs yapped at them, got tangled in their leashes, swatted at their faces, etc.--no reaction at all. So of course I appeared to be "another crazy and over-protective old lady with a toy dog."

I should mention that I was at the event for three reasons: 1) it's free and there are tons of free giveaways, 2) my Papillon was used to sucker people into donating to the guide dog group I volunteer with (at their booth) and 3) I counted on winning the two trick contests--which I did--and getting gift certificates to a pet supply store.

I knew for a fact that there had never been an aggressive incident at the fest in 20 years, and that people bring appropriate and dog-friendly dogs. I live in a city with a HUGE number of dog parks and day cares for its size. I did carry my usual knife, pepper spray and break stick, however.

In Case 3, I didn't speak to the pit owners on the mountain, but warned everybody on the way back down the trail. Again, everybody looked at me like I was nuts and continued walking to the top.

Thanks to your input, I'm starting to see which fights are worth pursuing, and which aren't. And most real-life confrontations aren't, especially with the people who already own the pits.

By the way, to the person who asked about the "middle class woman with a pit":

Yes, this is the typical pit owner here. I live just outside an extremely liberal and well-educated university town. The shelter is beautiful, massively funded, with hundreds of volunteers. It never has more than about 15-20 dogs at a time, is pretty much "no-kill" and happily adopts out pits. They have special classes and t-shirts for pit adopters, so they feel speh-shul. The local kennels, day cares, etc. are all extremely pit friendly.

Thanks to people blindly following the nutters, I see plenty of pits here being walked/run by middle-class white families, often with kids in fancy jogging strollers. Fortunately, their numbers are still VERY low compared to other breeds. If the national average is 4% pits, I would guess that the local city has 2% pits, and my village has 0.2%. (I did a calculation on this today for another post).

Keep your answers coming!

tropical storms said...

I normally just say "hi bulldog". If I get a certain knowing look from the owner or a comment I may ask about bloodlines and the parents' performance "hunting". Otherwise I just head on to the Blue Buffalo Wilderness dry catfood, softclaws and cat toys. I stock up so I only go twice a year, therefore I may not be as annoyed by their presence as those who spend more time in Petsmart/PETCO.

tropical storms said...

BTW, I don't recommend anyone follow my example on anything. I play with dangerous people (these days mostly for fun), I strongly caution others against it.

orangedog said...

As far as the middle class family, there is the one in my puppy class that I've talked about. Of course, the rescue lied to them about the "boxer/lab" they adopted. It's most definitely a pit bull.

orangedog said...

S.K.Y, I see the same type of pit owner here except my local shelter is overrun with pits. There were 3 non-grippers last time I checked.
I cringe when I see some 80lb gripper being walked with the flexi attached to a baby stroller.

Branwyne Finch said...

Hi, Sharon, I didn't realize this was you....I thought it was someone expecting all of us to claim that we like to make "nice" moms with their kids cry in public. I am the poster who hasn't really met a nice middle class family who owns a pit, but I have met a few clueless, first time dog owners who were tricked by a shelter into adopting a "lab mix" that was actually a pit bull. Most of the middle class people who I have met that deliberately want a pit bull are what I like to call "white trash with money". It's a special category I have for folks I meet who may have money and education, but lack the common value system that separates decent people from the narcissists......they are the types of families who own dogs that terrorize neighbors, but are defiant about defending "their" dogs; they are the types of families who host underage drinking parties for their teens friends in their home next to the country club, so that their child can be popular, and they can be seen as the "cool parents".

You get the idea.....

My suggestion for you, Sharon, would be to perhaps approach the woman in a very friendly manner, comment on how cute the puppy is, then explain that you are a professional dog trainer. Share some of your impressive credentials, then gently tell her that "cute" pit bull puppies can change as they reach sexual maturity, and become very dangerous. Say something like "Please be very careful, as your puppy matures, that you pay close attention to any displays of aggressive behavior toward other animals or people...expect that the dogs "friendly" demeanor may change by the age of 2-3." Speak calmly, and smile, and remind her that "with kids in the house, you can't be too careful, please be vigilant ", and walk away.

Sky, I think your background and credentials are extensive enough that people will listen to you. It's all in the delivery. If a friendly, professional dog trainer with your background ever approached me in public, and gave me advice about my dog, I would damn well listen. I think you could have a big impact, even on the other "admirers" cooing over the puppy, you just have to do it in a very friendly, non-confrontational way.

Packhorse said...

"I would do anything for my family...even eat them."

Packhorse said...

Last time I was in a place with multiple pits was the big AR conference in DC.

In 2010 it was overrun with grippers. I got to see one lunging and snarling at another large dog and have to be dragged away.

AR 2012 was a different story. There were only 2 pits that I saw the entire time, and both were elderly, obese, and completely inactive. NONE of the younger, more active pits that I had seen in 2010 were there two years later.

I really wonder if these dogs "turned on" and their rescue angels had to face the grim facts.
Maybe the AR community is finally starting to read ANIMAL PEOPLE en masse. Who knows.

scurrilous amateur blogger said...

haha packhorse. i just came across that last night and grabbed it for future use.

i'm thinking of adding "and i am even better pit bulldog. so watch your your step."

"NONE of the younger, more active pits that I had seen in 2010 were there two years later."

cuz their average life expectancy does not exceed 24 months.

DubV said...

I was a bit confused by the dogstardaily article at first.

I read the title and thought I was about to read a critique of pit nutter emotionalism. I then read the post and thought that it was something cited as an example of what was to be critiqued.

I then read the comments after the emotional screed, and realized that the author did not realize they were being ironic.

orangedog said...

My eyes rolled out of my head when I read that Dogstar article. This woman is seriously comparing walking a stupid pit bull with racism or being poor. These idiots are hopeless. And don't even try to tell me that they don't revel in their "persecution club".

"When I walk with a dog in a pibble suit, I feel a great weight. As a white woman, I haven't faced what people wearing other genetic or socio-economic "suits" must deal with on a regular basis."

I have read some twisted shit from these people, but the narcissism involved to write that paragraph is exceptional. Maybe the author is Paula Deen.
"Woe is me, I picked a nasty dog breed. People don't want their dogs shredded or to be bitten so they run from me. It's just like being black during the Jim Crow days. You other pibble pushers know what I mean, right right? Lets all hug and tell each other how much better we are than all those haters."

Yeah lady, owning a Shitbull is EXACTLY like being born a minority or into poverty. Guess which one of these is a fucking CHOICE!
And all the people agreeing with her in the comments should go extract their heads from their butts, and see how offensive this is.

Anonymous said...

repy to orangedog
i wonder how much sympathy this woman would have if her shit dog attacked someone or something . i bet she wouldnt see a real victim here , she would very quickly find excuses or redirect the blame elsewhere. these folks are not too clever at putting themselves in anothers place ,but they are clever at slithering out of trouble .

S.K.Y. said...

Orangedog, great commentary about the Dogstar article. Just what I was thinking, but you wrote it out much better than I would have. :-)

Anonymous said...

You can't put your dog on a leash and go for a walk anymore, or tsake them to a public area, until this war on America's dogs by the dog fighting afficionados is dealt with. Don't let your dog be a victim. The attacks and death happen in an instant.

scurrilous amateur blogger said...

i agree, orangedog's comment on the kooks at dogstar (ian dunbar's little fantasy world) is fantastic. orangedog is my little secret squirrel. i have been pestering him/her to blog for months. so far i have only been able to persuade them to leave comment. baby steps.

regarding the issue of racism, i am not sure who is responsible for this, but i believe this meme was started for two reasons. first, the nutters need to be able to justify their lies so they need to elevate pit bulldogs to a status like that of anne frank. who wouldn't lie to the nazis if they knocked on doors looking for jews? second, i believe it's an attempt to play on white american guilt so they can shut down the debate.
i think some nutters unconsciously slip into the racist rant because they are projecting their own attitudes towards people of color.

scurrilous amateur blogger said...

i always tell people if they are on a collision course with grippers or any out of control dog. i wrote about one such encounter last month. on occasion, i hang around just in case things get ugly.

i rarely go to pet stores since i started cooking for my dogs. but under no circumstances will i allow a pit bull of any in age to interact with my dogs. i tell them that i don't trust pit bulls with other animals, especially dogs. i refuse to alter my course, although i will put a little more distance between my dogs and the grippers. i always get my video camera out when i see gripper.

most of my problems occur on walks and on the rare occasion that i go to dog parks which is usually on bad weather days or in the winter. they are too crowded in the summer. last winter i encountered a dingbat with a totally out of control pit bulldog. as i got closer i saw he was not neutered. i couldn't tell who owned him. i said in a very loud and annoyed voice, "who owns the brindle testicles?" the dingbat looked scared but came forward. i told her she is asking for trouble bringing that thing to a dog park. she looked like she might cry. she left.

last summer i was at the local farmer's market when i spotted the classic fur mommy with pit bull. late 20's, a couple of extra piercings, the obligatory paw tattoo on the wrist, forcing her wiggle butt on everyone. a woman squatted down to eye level and was petting pibbles as the fur mommy blathered on. fur mommy said she had JUST adopted the pit bull an hour ago. the smile on the woman's face turned to quiet panic. she froze and then slowly rose to a standing position. i'd give anything to have captured that on video. it was at that point that i decided i was going to follow fur mommy and pibble with my video camera. i did see her engaging with every other dog owner there. i listened in on her conversations. she was completely self absorbed and proud of herself for being such an awesome human being. she had no idea that i was following and watching her for over a half hour.

a month later, same farmer's market, there was some kind of special event with alpaca's. people with pit bulls straining and getting way too close. i talked to the vender about pit bulls. i got the "it's all how you raise them" bullshit. typically i get belligerent or sarcastic when someone lobs that at me but that time, i just walked away from her as she was in mid sentence.

a couple of years ago, i encountered a fur mommy, pibble and child on one of my walks. we both headed for each other about 15 ft from the corner. i was planning to turn in her direction, she in mine. she stopped, made pibble sit and then stood there proudly waiting for me and my two dogs to approach and say hello. i also stopped and just stood there and stared at her. she was so pleased with her mastery over pibble but once she realized i was not impressed, she proceeded on. she looked like she might cry. the same thing happened with a fur daddy. i was about 50 feet behind him and his little maniac. he stopped and made her sit. i stopped and just stared at him. he kept looking behind at us, also quite pleased with himself and his little mutato. a woman walked past him and towards me. as she got close to me, she said "i don't blame you". i smiled for the first time. he finally got the hint after 2 minutes of a quiet stand off and proceeded on. he looked crushed. boo hoo. i was behind him for a couple of blocks and that little female was doing back flips and stopping every so often to piss. it was strange. a couple of weeks later, i saw her flip out over a couple of senior citizens on bikes. i was driving and i couldn't get video. that would have been some great footage.

i have many more stories, too many actually. i am surrounded by these freaks.

DubV said...

Interesting exchange here

april 29 said...

Thanks for the link DubV. I may be in love with Lobo.

scurrilous amateur blogger said...

lobo kicked some serious ass on trannymagic. who surprisingly (that's sarcasm) was a 20 yr old male at the time. i wonder if that is lycanprincess who counts among her causes and projects gender bending?

i think he linked to one of glen bui's websites too, flinging serious insult.

well done lobo.

Packhorse said...

And now, let's take a moment to boo-hoo over Cage, shot by police for "no reason."

scurrilous amateur blogger said...

Statement from owner: My blue pitbull Cage was unlawfully killed while on my front porch by a police man that was patrolling the area. No complaint was made of my dog, he just got out of his kennel, but knows to go on the front porch when he is out of the fence. Neither me or my husband were home and all of this happened on our private property. We want justice for having our baby taken from us just because of a stereotype.-Kelly and Kylie Law

all those mature well adjusted people with intact critical thinking skills who believe the above, please raise your hand.

yeah, that's what i thought.

orangedog said...

We need to invite Lobo here. He takes no prisoners.

Meals on Wheels said...

A pit bull puppy too young for vaccinations....hell no! Those things are prone to parvo. That's reason enough why you should never take your dog to Petsmart or the dog park.

Anonymous said...

Didn't know if you saw this lovely piece of propaganda- this journalist needs a reality check for sure- I use the word "journalist" loosely! Not a whole lot of fact checking on pitbulls- or maybe she didn't like what she found

Anne King said...

Last year, quite fresh off the attack of Little Man King, I was walking with him in a park...and a pit was dragging it's fur mommy across the grass...they got too close, I told her to get a dog she could truly handle, or muzzle the one she obviously can't. Her friend told me all pits aren't bad, I told her the one that nearly tore my son's face off was, and that she was jeopardizing public safety because she clearly couldn't control her dog. Then they proceeded to tell me to fuck off...I have no want to be friendly with any pit owners, EVER!! They don't give a shit about anyone but themselves...

animalcop said...

In 2010, my neighbor's Pits entered my property(four of the twelve of them) and began to chase my horse. That was the last straw for me! I was able to chase them away surprisingly. Called Polk County Animal Control and loaded them up on the truck one by one. That was the last time I ever saw them again! The screams of tortured puppies stopped. The breaching of my property stopped! The continuous breeding stopped! And as difficult as it was to put them on that AC truck I knew I had done the hard thing and the right thing for all involved.