Saturday, August 21, 2010

craven mail bag: god, guns, lies and histrionics

meredith dinneen the scorpio girl writes:
After perusing your site, I am quite disturbed as I was hoping to find some real facts, not biases. As I took the time to read your thoughts. I hope you will take the time to read mine. By the way I am NOT a pitbul owner. I am an animal rescuer and trainer who has worked with many many different breeds of dogs. And I have been bitten by a dog as well.
(9 paragraphs of blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda)
Thank you for listening

well meredith, since you lied in the very first paragraph, i am compelled to censor you. i know you think you have more credibility if you identify your self as some kind of a disinterested third party neutral scientific expert but in your own words you are "an avid pit bull advocate" AND a pit bull owner which of course means that you are a lying pit nutter. unless of course you are lying on your meetup profile. what are the chances?

stacey buba writes:
God will judge you for promoting the death of his creatures. Dogs are wonderfully loyal and loving creatures that God put on this planet to serve humans. Human beings are responsible for not returning the unconditional love and loyalty ALL breeds of dogs give us. God will see what you have done to his creatures. I pray that he has mercy on your soul.

congratulations STACEY! this is the creepiest letter so far. you do realize that santa claus and the easter bunny are not real and that dogs were created by HUMANS right? pit bulls didn't arise naturally on their own. they were intensively bred for 100+ years by psychopaths. god had nothing to do with it. and i am deeply offended by your put here to serve man comment. i like this Alice Walker quote, “The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created for men.”

jeff natale aka ducatidarkie620 writes:
You people make me sick! You are obviously uneducated and portray a poor attitude against things you do not understand. You know more people get bit by beagles and labs every year then any other breed? I bet you don't. Have you ever had a pit? I don't think you have. Cause if you did you would see what type of dogs they really are. I wish my pit would bite people like you but, unfortunately he is sweet natured and wouldn't do that.What's next? You going to lock up all Africa Americans? Cause statistically blacks are arrested more often for violent crimes aren't they? Or is that just some sick twisted way of thinking? Wait until GOD judges you for your judgements!
-Jeff Natale DOG TRAINER. (why don't you try working with the breed before you write about things that you have NO IDEA about. Losers.)

SUP RAMBO! this is the funniest email yet! seriously dude, "i wish my pit would bite you" coupled with the "god's gonna get you crap" is fucking priceless! one thing you have a good grasp of is religion! it is a good thing that we have pit bulls so these racist idiots are able to vent their hatred towards people of color publicly and with impunity. i think if we were able to eradicate the pit bull, punks like jeff would have to resort to wearing sheets again.
be sure to check rambo out. and google this ducati dufus. a lot of people seem to think he is an idiot in the dog training comment sections.

HOWDY SARAH! my answers are in red.
sarah powers writes:
I just wanted to let you know that as I am writing this email to you I am shaking in anger at your absolutely ridiculous website!!!!!!! You have NO right to say the things that you have said (actually the first amendment guarantees my right to say these things) on there about "Pitbull Owners" and how they are all criminals, (not all but far too many and even more wannabe criminals. see the dufus above you) and liars, (see meredith above) and all the other made up crap that you have said! I am a very proud owner of 2 American pitbulls, and they are these most loving dogs that I have ever known! I don't LIE to people about their breed, and I am NOT a criminal, nor have I EVER had a criminal record! I think it's pathetic that you have to trash talk people like me to make yourself feel better because you were attacked by a dog!! News Flash for you.....Dogs don't have a voice..therefore their way of communicating when they are scared, upset, or annoyed is to bark, and or bite! (or scalp or amputate or kill) My dogs are my children...(if you are treating your dogs like children, you are part of the problem) So by you saying that pitbulls should be banned is saying that my children should be taken from me! (no, i am saying that pit bulls should be spayed and neutered into extinction, unless your dogs are aggressive, then YES OF COURSE!) Would you like me to take your children away from you??? Doesn't sound fair now does it?? I seriously can't stand people like you! You make it so hard for responsible Pitbull owners like myself, and the millions of others like me to have these wonderful dogs! (actually sarah, pit bull owners and their dogs make it hard on people like me to live my daily life, you know like gardening, walking my dog, taking out the trash, walking to the store, getting my mail, sitting on my porch, watching tv in bed) Every single person that has EVER come in contact with my dogs has fallen in love with them! long as close minded people like you continue to have such ridiculous things to say about my dogs...I will continue to fight against people like you that much more! (good to know)
Ten Facts About Pit Bulls Every One Should Know
1. Pit Bulls are commonly used as therapy dogs. Whether they are visiting a senior care facility or helping someone recover from an emotional accident, Pit Bulls are making a mark as outstanding therapy dogs.
2. Pit Bulls are used in Search and Rescue work. One example of well known SAR Pit Bulls is Kris Crawford and her dogs. Kris and her dogs have helped save the lives of many people during their efforts.
KRIS CRAWFORD is a LIAR, a grifter, a convicted felon, a CRIMINAL. and as a result, she can no longer do SAR work.
3. Pit Bulls serve as narcotic and bomb sniffing dogs. One Pit Bull, Popsicle (named that because he was found in an old freezer) has the largest recorded single drug find in Texas history. Read more about Popsicle here. Including how he found over 3,000 lbs of cocaine in Hildago, Texas.
you are correct, a couple of pit bulls do work as detection dogs.
4. Pit Bulls are great with kids. They weren't referred to as the "nanny's dog" for nothing that's for sure.
ACTUALLY, they weren't referred to as the nanny dog at all. please read The Nanny Dog Myth Revealed and educate yourself, you look like an idiot repeating these lies.
5. Pit Bulls are not human aggressive. The American Pit Bull Terrier as a breed is not human aggressive. In fact, quite the opposite is true of the breed. They are gentle and loving dogs. Like any dog individuals can be unsound and have behavior problems.
very few breeds of dogs were deliberately bred for human aggression. it is a myth that man biting pit bulls were culled by the dogmen. here is an excellent discussion on the topic. pay close attention to rockstar's comments. that is ROCKY ALEXANDER and i think he is as close to an expert on pit bulls as it gets. manbiters
6. The Pit Bull was so popular in the early 1900's they were our mascot not only in World War One, but World War Two as well. They were featured on recruiting and propoganda posters during this time period.
i haven't checked this out yet.
7. Sgt. Stubby. A Pit Bull war hero. Stubby was wounded in action twice, he saved his entire platoon by warning them of a poison gas attack and he single handedly captured a German spy.
ACTUALLY, the truth about sgt stubby is grossly exaggerated. please read famous pit bulls: the sgt stubby edition and educate yourself.
8. Pete the Pup on the orginal Little Rascals was a Pit Bull.
Petey was poisoned. think about it.
9. Pit Bulls score an 83.4% passing rate with the American Temperament Test Society. That's better than the popular Border Collie (a breed who scores 79.6%). View the ATTS stats here.
the ATTS, the people who administer it and the pit nutters who enter their dogs make this test utterly worthless. please check back to see this lie exposed.
10. They are dogs not killing machines.
when it comes to other dogs, i would have to disagree with you. site terms scroll down to section 7 and take note nutters!
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Anonymous said...

That Meredith. What a bimbo. Another idiot helping get kids killed by pit bulls, and helping pit bulls get killed by pit bull fighters and breeders.

This piece of garbage has so many issues here. First, she's setting up these dog meetups to score some business for herself. She's selling her dog training and behaviorist services (reporting that income Meredith?) to the idiots that are attending these Seattle Active Dog meetup group events.

Second, she's shilling for money for Pasado's Safe Haven, and they hit the media recently about using donations for their own personal use, deceiving donors in fundraising material, and much much more. Plus they abandoned pit bulls with a hoarder to die. So Meredith is trying to get people to donate to a questionable charity having issues that hurt pit bulls?

Third, she's lying in her postings about her dog Katie and calling this animal a lab shepherd mix.

Worse, Katie is a messed up heavy pit bull mix. A typical setup for a dog mauling

"Katie is a sweet but shy dog who gets better and better at socializing. She has lots of energy and is very agile."

She's bringing a problem, troubled, out on control, unsocialized pit bull mix to these events with the naive morons who will be sitting ducks when Katie suddenly kills their dog or their kid, as Meredith preaches dog fighter propaganda.

Meredith is using them and their dogs as guinea pigs and potential victims for a disturbed pit bull mix Katie, to try to "make Katie better." Guess who dies when Katie melts downs and has issues?

(Meredith tries to wear out Katie before the events and tire the dog out, but Meredith still can't really handle the dog)

Meredith is the kind of airheaded bimbo who doesn't care that kids are getting killed by dogs like hers. She can't even fix her own dog!

But she does say that only "dog friendly" dogs can come to her meetups.

Well, how dog friendly is the unsocialized, energetic, agile, fighting dog mix Katie?

A dog living in a small place, with a jackass who takes off to Africa and leaves her dog for someone else to handle- an unsocialized pit bull mix.

Why do people in these meetup groups let themselves and their dogs get dumped on and used by liars like Meredith who troll online for victims and business?

By the way, Meredith, I tracked down someone in your meetup group who knows you. So your attempted anonymity with your dog fighter preaching failed.

Your dog hurts someone, or you enable some other pit bull to hurt someone, and you are going to be held accountable.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Natale is another one of these weird, outcast loser guys that are a small percentage compared to the airheaded bimbo "pit bull advocate" females, also a set of marginal and frequently lonely, spinster idiots.

These guys are all out of the same mold. They just reek of loser.

The pit bull thing is like a big giant sign with an arrow over these guys "Loser Reject"

But they all have one thing in common. They are ALL liars.

Anonymous said...

As for Sarah Powers, she's EXACTLY the kind of bimbo getting kids killed, who then say, "my pit bull was always friendly!" after the kid is dead, and THEN TRY TO BLAME THE CHILD.

Another worthless, trashy liar.

Anonymous said...

So does Milford Connecticut know about Jeff's gun collection?

Wasn't Mafia Wars the one with the dog fighting?

NoMoreBull said...

Sniffer dogs, hey?

some research:

A new study suggests that human preferences have dramatically altered the structure and position of the brain in certain dog breeds, potentially modifying their sense of smell and behavior as well.

The dogs with the shortest skulls—such as the pit bull, Akita and shih tzu cross—demonstrated significant brain reorganization. In short-snouted dogs, not only had the brain's cerebral hemispheres rotated forward by as much as 15 degrees, the olfactory lobes had shifted position from the front of the brain toward the base of the skull. The brains of puglike dogs did not sit inside the skull in the same way as brains of long-snouted dogs, whose skulls and brains more closely match those of the domestic dog's wolf ancestor. In other words, the findings imply that when selective breeding by humans squashed the snouts of certain dog breeds, it also morphed their brains.

The research team also speculated as to the implications of morphed brains for smell—regulated by the olfactory lobe—and behavior, which is largely orchestrated by the frontal cortex. Selective breeding may have robbed short-snouted dogs of their keen sense of smell when it relocated their olfactory lobes. The researchers note that puglike dogs are rarely if ever recruited to track down scents. Instead, olfactory orienteering commonly falls to the long-snouted hounds.

4Truth said...

I have to say that I believe in God, but I think those nutters who are spouting off about God's judgement and wrath know as much about God as they do pit bulls. I highly doubt you're going to be condemned for speaking out the truth about these dogs. They are indeed "man made".

I don't think the nutters even LOOK at the faces of the children and people on or peoples beloved pets on cravendesires. I think they just automatically run to the comments section as soon as they notice you're telling the truth and spout off their lies. If they actually took the time to read through these sites and do REAL research into the breed, they wouldn't be so quick to spout off nonsense and judgement. In fact, they would be doing all they could to help their breed instead of hurting it like they're doing now.

april 29 said...

Lies come to pit bull owners like flies to manure. "It's not my dog" "I'm watching the dog for a friend" "my dog has never done this before" "someone must have left the gate open" "SOMEHOW" "my dog is a boxer mix, or a lab mix, etc" "my dog was provoked"

Sarah does not think for herself, she is a foolish cut-and-paste queen. I hope she has insurance on her "children" so individuals injured by those "children" can receive the medical care they require.

Why do nutters think that victims need to own a pit bull to understand them? Victims understand all too well, it's the pit owners that stand, frozen, while their "wigglebutts" savage children, senior citizens, innocent dog walkers, dogs, cats, horses, ponies, goats, pigs, cattle, sheep, white tailed deer, etc. Pit owners do, however, have a lightning flash moment when the wigglebutt attacks them. At that time, the common pit owners response is to shout to police SHOOT HIM, SHOOT HIM."

FormerOhioGirl said...

Set up a new email rule:

Anyone that uses the term "perusing," such as scumbag lawyers and pit nutter nitwits, should simply be directed to the trash DogsBiteOrg.

PS. Jeff Natale is priceless. Sheets to be sure!

Anonymous said...

"Petey was poisoned...Think about it"

Best line ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always loved Gentle Ben...A better actor and died of old age.

Black bears kill a fraction of what fould bred Pits do.

Anonymous said...

Check out this San Francisco Nutter who was asked if his Pit was neutered at a dog park:

scurrilous amateur blogger said...


Friends Administrator said...

Amazing how utterly stupid some people are and still are managing to survive in the world. These fuckers are the ultimate reasons why humans need to be neutered moreso than the dogs do. They are puppets for the dogmen and pit bull breeders, nothing more, and their strings are being cut by people such as DogsBite and Craven. Be careful, nutters, when those strings are cut and you hit the ground, you'll learn the hard way what your pits are all about, they are just waiting for the chance to show you what they were bred to do - to kill.

CKing said...

This is wonderful! They set themselves up for you to knock them down! Very nice selection of varieties of nutter, too.

And I love the Alice Walker quote!

And WOW is right about the knifing. INSANE

Friends Administrator said...

What's the use in asking if a pit is neutered? That means you would believe that it makes a difference, drinking the Delise Koolaid. That is what is scary, their believing that neutering makes a difference when it comes to pits.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't surprise me that pit nutters try to evoke fear of the wrath of "god" when chastising others for seeing them and their dogs for the defective misfits they are. There is no bigger bully than the "vengeful father in the sky". These people wouldn't know the true meaning of their own supposed religion if it bit them in the ass, any more than they're able to see their dogs for what they really are. At least when their dogs go postal on them, most do see the light. A pity more of them don't then go into it.

scurrilous amateur blogger said...


Anonymous said...

The Merediths and Natales of the world have a very greedy reason for pushing the pit bulls though.

They get people to "adopt" or buy these troubled dogs, then the Merediths and Natales offer their services as dog trainers or behaviorists and promise to "fix the pit bull" which of course is impossible.

Years of income for the Merediths and Natales of the world and their underground businesses.

That Meetup group and the fake rescue is a business proposition for that disgusting Meredith sleaze.

scurrilous amateur blogger said...

interesting take

Anonymous said...

Looks like these people had something missing in their lives and found a home in the Pit Bull community.

I'm thinking the first liar carries a phony ID to whip out at the dog park...

Anonymous said...

I don't think Jeff Natale's "pit bull" is a pit bull. And I don't think Natale has a clue as to what a responsible dog owner is. His "pit bull" is still packing around his testicles. And his "pit bull" seems to have been displaced by his NEW puppy.

I especially liked the photos of him and his buddies playing Miami Vice. 29 years old! And still acting like a teenager. What a bunch of fucking losers. Too bad those aren't bigger.

Anonymous said...

Sarah Powers, you deserve the dummy of the month award. Whining about pit bull owners being called liars and criminals and then propping up KRIS CRAWFORD as an example of responsible pit bull ownership. Your'e hysterically stupid! Plus in classic pit nutter style, you completely ignore the first amendment! You guys are so predictably formulaic.

Anonymous said...

Kris Crawford, for anyone who isn't aware, was busted for fraud. She was a pit bull nutter and pushed herself as an "expert.".

Anonymous said...

Kris Crawford is a felon and the SAR community has shunned her.

scurrilous amateur blogger said...

the berkey money dried up too. many pit nutters have shunned her. the nutters that still copy and paste the crawford crap, probably haven't bothered to read any deeper.

Anonymous said...

It is bad owners(or just inappropriate)that make bad dogs. Even with all your sanctimonious, wise-ass rambling and defensive hatred; you should be intelligent enough to discern this.
You're the biggest "nutter" on here as evidenced by the number of times you use the word. I'm sensing alot of insecurity in you, just as with anyone who dedicates this much time to something they hate. Maybe you should get a sheet for yourself, douchebag.
I'm sorry to be the one to burst your bubble but someone had to do it... and besides,it's for your own good!

scurrilous amateur blogger said...

i believe it is always a combination of both a bad owner and a bad dog.