@FUzupf Here's no exaggeration - The victim is dead. And you want to quibble about whether the arm stumps in the box are 1.5 feet long or 2 feet long. You are disgusting. Pit bulls tore this woman apart. She died in a barbaric heinous act of senseless violence. Why don't you send the family a memorial plaque saying - "You can be thankful she died with her elbows intact"
this might be the best comment, EVER.
thanks for the inspiration FUzupf!
Bravo OMERGARED, for a succinct summary of FUzupf's perfect avoidance of rationale conclusions.
I noticed in FUzupf's YouTube profile that he claims to be a fire service EMT and fire engineer. I call BULLSHIT on this anonymous LIAR. I’m betting he's a weirdo wannabe hang-around at some podunk volunteer department, or at best, works as a seasonal grunt for CDF. For that matter, I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t once part of a CDF convict crew. At age 31, this one man freak show couldn't argue his way out of a burlap sack if it was open on both ends, much less run the protocols on a full arrest. If he works at any department, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW exactly what department hires and maintains such an immature imbecile.
Berserking pit bull, COULDN'T BE STOPPED EVEN AFTER GETTING TASED TWICE, this thing is on a rampage, fire department and cable operator trapped in vehicles
AND MOTHERFUCKING PIT BULL NUTS ARE PISSED ABOUT WHAT FIREFIGHTER'S SAID?
They have to take video now because the dog fighter friends like fuzupf will start calling them names and telling lies. And the cop didn't even kill the dog, just grazed it to stop it.
People have to see these things and think about these fighting dogs berserking on their kids.
Every single one of these fighting dogs needs this.
Why are all these fuzupf types effeminate losers?
Why would this guy even show a picture of himself? He looks like a perv.
Real men don't own white trash fighting dogs.
You'll love this craven
The MASTIFF people call fuzupf a liar
Classic quote "FUZupf defends pit bulls by trying to make other breeds look bad"
And they insist the attacking dog is of course a pit bull. Looks like Fuzupf is involved in lying about the breed to cover for pit bulls!
This has much to be enjoyed
Comment from a mastiff owner to FUZupf. They call him a liar too.
"Because your actual ...
Because your actual , real news media story is about a PITBULL . That's why ! And your title is "Bull Mastiff attacks boy (Graphic Picture) " The news TITLE is on the Screen , Red On Blue : "VICIOUS DOG ATTACK" . So you are a f**king LIAR !"
Pit bull wackos will ALWAYS throw every other breed under the bus!
i have serious doubts to the veracity of fuzupf's profile too. people are always pretending to something they're not on the internet.
i perused the bullmastiff link, it seems that the bullmastiff people are saying the attacker was a pit bull. it is also seems that fuzupf is defending the bullmastiff, calling it in the top 10 breeds that are trustworthy with kids. this guy is a real fucking idiot. the bullmastiff is one of the few breeds created to be human aggressive.
to anon 4:22, you go that right! a group of people concerned about maligning innocent dogs has shown no mercy when it comes to the bloodhound.
Wouldn't it be nice if, when we put down one of these pit-bull type dogs, we could also put down the owners?
It would make our country such a much nicer place to live in so many ways...
He reason he calls himself a firefighter is PROPAGANDA. If you ask people who do you trust? top of the list is firefighters, next scientists. Obviously this dude can't call himself a scientist so he is going for firefighter.
"top of the list is firefighters, next scientists"
The problem is there have been countless busts of firefighters for dog fighting
And scientists too.
Actually a very high number of those in the sciences field involved in dog fighting, including a cancer researcher
He's probably a second hand cars salesperson.
"It would make our country such a much nicer place to live in so many ways..."
Guess who moved out of Denver? The bonus for cities who have enough courage to adopt a pit bull ban is that AMAZING LOSERS like fuzupf LEAVE TOWN! Imagine that:-)
There is an FUzupf listing at the MaulTalk manual now. All suggestions, editions, should be sent to maultalker --at-- gmail.com.
Hi guys! YES!!!!! I finally won something, the OMERGARED. I would like to first thank my family and friends for hanging in there with me and never giving up...... pshhh whatever. Who the hell cares.
1st let me assure you, I'm not a dogfighter or LOL! a perv.
Since you guys want to know so much about me, here ya go....
I was born in 1979, I was an AirForce Brat, moved to England, then back to the States.
I graduated high school back in 1997. I attended college and started Ski Patrolling at one of the local ski resorts. Since that job is seasonal, I went back to college and enrolled in the fire academy.
I was picked up by the local dept and was a paid part time firefighter. Instead of 24hr shifts, I worked 12s. I was on C Shift for all of you that know the different shift schedules.
I've responded to car accidents, medicals, traumas, structure fires, vegetation fires, car fires, shootings, suicides, gas leaks, and transports just to name a few.
I became an EMT-Intermediate which is one step lower than a Paramedic, I then took courses in Firefighter 2 and the ADO course (apparatus driver operator, aka fire engineer)
After completing those courses, I then moved down to California and was hired on by the now CalFire(formely known as CDF, California District Fire) as part of the Helitack Crew. I did that for a season and when the economy tanked and California shut down a few CDF stations they also got rid of all seasonals. So now, I'm a desk jockey.
As for the one person asking about what dept would dare hire such a disgusting person.....As with all fire depts, the applicant must submit a LiveScan, or basically a background check. So I guess they accept anybody with a clean background.
The snap shots that Craven Desires took is of our 1st Pit Bull and me.
The other shots are of my wife changing our baby when she was first born...
By the way, my wife wants all of you to know that she doesn't have a tattoo on her right shoulder, she has a couple more down her right arm and down the right side of her torso! She said, "if you're gonna stalk us and steal pictures from us, at least LABEL them right!"
She's COOL! Along with our COOL dog laying there in our COOL house, with our COOL baby swing and COOL couch.
The other picture is obviously me wearing my COOL helmet and riding my COOL motorcycle and enjoying the day. I'm a COOL GUY!
Finally, the whole extremist hategroup.... this is the first time I ever saw anything like that.
Oh ya, the dog park videos......I apologize for not posting recent activity, I wasn't aware that people cared.
That particular dog park was closed down for renovations, (that was over a year ago) and we moved to a different city anyway.
So for the time being, we've just been walking our dogs, taking them to dog beach and of course, the pit bull awareness day march in Brea, CA.
The video of Raven chasing the ball with the other dog, HELLO, it's an OFFLEASH DOG PARK. Have you ever been to a dog park? It's where owners take their dogs and they can play with eachother in a controlled environment. If the owner had a problem with my dog chasing his dog with the ball; I would've gladly have moved to another part of the park. As far as Sequoya goes....she was a rescued dog that we took care of and she was eventually adopted out to a great older gentleman.
Gotta go, but please try and find out more stuff about us. Maybe you can find a long lost relative or something. I know I had relatives in Massachusetts not too long ago.
All of that and no answer to the relevant and salient part of the blog entry. It's no exaggeration that a woman died a horrible death, and you're more interested in pimping pits and your "cool" life than addressing the real issue. That tells me everything I need to know about you, and it's not flattering.
Well, I think we have our answer. FUzupf is intellectually bankrupt. He is too stupid to realize that he hasn't won anything. His insensitive comment simply inspired Omergared.
Fuzupf knows what a twat is then! You already are a type. There's nothing distinctly different from you than many other aging odd guys.
BUT you are shitting in your wife and kid's faces.
No wait, your KID'S face, because any woman that would expose her kid to fighting dogs so a lower middle class balding, aging daddy who can't keep a job can try to pretend he's young and hip is a piece of crap herself.
But then there are a lot of desperate, sad women around.
And I'll bet she is actually the one working and paying the bills so the old man can play with his fighting dogs and get obsessed about them instead of becoming an actual man and someone for his kid to someday admire, instead of be embarrassed about.
You are too old to be pulling this routine, idiot. You are just late on the fad.
This one has Dan Meagher written all over him. The same sad loser, absolutely no understanding of dogs whatsoever. He doesn't even know how to handle these dogs.
(Why do I think this balding idiot is out at the dog park with his dog trying to pick up low rent honies?)
anon 2:32 i don't understand your comment. why are bringing this idiot's kids into the debate?
harass or persecute with unwanted and obsessive attention
fuzupf interesting choice of words (stalk). i doubt that you are sharp enough to see the hypocrisy of your statement, so i will spell it out for you. you have been STALKING zupf and dogsbite since November 25, 2008. you pit nutters really love to play the role of persecuted victim. it is fascinating how you people reverse arguments and definitions. take underdog for example, a term that pit nutters like brandon bond have hijacked.
underdog |ˈəndərˌdÃ´g; -ˌdäg|
a competitor thought to have little chance of winning a fight or contest.
pit bulls are NOT the underdog.
as for your comment about "hello, it's a dog park", common sense dictates that you should not allow a dog to chase another dog that's chasing a toy. consult one of your idols diane jessup and get back to me. email@example.com
and if the owner had a problem, i am sure he would have been too intimidated to say anything. that's the way you pit nutters like it.
And you folks call us the haters. ROFLMA You can say what you want sheeple. I have owned pit bulls for more than 40 yrs with no incidents. I even helped write the dangerous dog ordinance in my home town and we did it without BSL. So if you have a chewee that bites get ready you're gonna have a problem here. Breed is irrelevant.
Bwaaaaaa-hahahaha! Did I nail it or what?
The part timer - 12 hour shifts – a sleeper or day grunt. If I had a nickel for every rant about some of these guys being less than equal to a well trained monkey... (Yeah, these are the half wits that would own pit bulls.)
And a CDF seasonal? Did I not fucking guess CDF seasonal? (LMAO!) At 31, this twit still doesn't have a career position nailed down? What does that tell you?
As far as the extremist hategroup assertion? I couldn't begin to list all the stations and LE units where the mention of “pit bulls” triggers rants of loathing and disgust, as much for the idiots that own them as for the ugly dogs themselves. Maybe it’s the experience of seeing a kitchen floor that looks like the floor of a slaughter house after a 3 year old has been gutted by the “sweet family pit” that forms these opinions, eh? I know for a fact that I am just one among many in the FS, LE, EMS and ER depts. that read and post here. How’s that for an extremist hate group, moron?
You’re an immature piece of shit, ‘FUzupf.' That’s why at 31 years old you’re still a fucking wannabe. I’d love to see your rookie ass in a station running your pit advocacy bullshit at the veterans. When you stuff your feet into wet boots, trust me, it ain’t water. Everybody really did take turns pissing in them, fucktard.
3;59, Unfortunately dangerous dog ordinances only clean up AFTER the blood and missing limbs and corpses. Doesn't prevent them.
Pit bulls are responsible among canines for the overwhelming majority of blood being spilt and limbs getting torn off and corpses in caskets BECAUSE THEY AREN'T PETS, which anyone with real experience with dogs knows.
At over 40 years, one would think a person would have more sense than follow the fad or ape a gamedogger and have a fighting breed. Of course anyone over 40 putting ROFLMAO in their post has an issue.
Even the fucking for real dog fighters don't keep these dogs in their house with their kids and the wife.
"anon 2:32 i don't understand your comment. why are bringing this idiot's kids into the debate?"
Because HIS KID is going to pay the price for his idiocy. He's sticking fighting breeds in his kid's face, worse, fighting breeds he's apparently picking up off the street.
He brought his kid into his dangerous fantasy world and "debate" (or worse, some other poor kid, visiting or a neighbor)
And any mother of a child that lets a bonehead like this do that to her kid is brain dead. A bonehead who thinks it's ok if pits rip off someone's hands. I'd say that perv covers it.)
(Yes, dude i bagged, you bagged the idiot, down to a T. "I’d love to see your rookie ass in a station running your pit advocacy bullshit at the veterans" I would PAY to see that. The guys that have to deal with the results of trash fighting dogs in the hands of idiots, I don't know how they can get those images out of their heads.)
Another toddler killed in Texas this week by a Closed Caska-Nanny.
TarantulaGuy has responded to the posts about him. I've yet to get the chance to read them, but I bet they are a good laugh.
WoW! and I'm the 'morally corrupt' one around here?
My wife and I were reading the responses and couldn't stop laughing!
Isn't one of the main reasons why Haters think every pit owner should die is because they are: rude, inconsiderate, foul mouthed, obnoxious liars?
"You’re an immature piece of shit, ‘FUzupf.' That’s why at 31 years old you’re still a fucking wannabe"
"BUT you are shitting in your wife and kid's faces.
No wait, your KID'S face, because any woman that would expose her kid to fighting dogs so a lower middle class balding, aging daddy who can't keep a job can try to pretend he's young and hip is a piece of crap herself"
Anon, you're exactly right. My wife DOES pull in all the money, I had to resort to being her pimp. I mean, somedays aren't too bad, but then there's days where my expectations are totally blown out of the water and we rake in thousands of dollars in a night. THen I can piss it all away being a 'wannabe' asking all the overpaid Cal. firefighters, "can I help! Can I help?"
I like how you guys are thinking that me losing my hair is an insult. Personally, I would've tried making fun of my NOSE. I hate it. Can one of you come down here and clock me one so it'll straighten out? Sort of a super cool CHEAP rhinoplasty. It has to be cheap because remember, I don't have a job and I'm just a 'wannabe' LoL!!!!!!!
Oh ya, Craven.....Why you gotta be hatin' on the avaitor glasses???
my call sign is IceMan, bitch!
And the "cool pose" I'm actually making a funny face because I had to stretch out my arm just so I could get my dogs head and me in the same picture.
See, I can be just as "intellectual" as one of you, "My shit don't stink" high middle class people. see:
Oh, the dog park situation that is STILL being brought up.....the other owner was laughing. She thought it was funny. I dunno, maybe it was one of those, "you just had to be there" kinda deals.
oh, excuse me....."UPPER middle class"
So much hate in one room. I'm glad that I'm not like ya'll. That is just fine by me. Yes I have had pit's for more than 40 yrs and no it's not a fad. I've had them for much longer than that. My dogs live in the house with my wife and I and my children grew up with them.
Ya'll want to make something out of my use of internet slang. I've got grand kids that need monitoring. You're just saying the first thing that pops into your closed mind without thinking of any alternatives. So continue on talking to yourselves, I have no need for YOUR kind.
Anon 11:19, as far as some poor neighbors kid getting hurt by a pit bull, I'll tackle that one for you. As a mom whose lived in urban and suburban areas, there are two scenarios. If you live in a low income area where there are a lot of white trash, subsidized housing, etc. you will get a higher percentage of pit bulls. If all the neighbors have pit bulls, then you are pretty much living with the trailer trash/ghetto trash and the friends and neighbors won't care that their kids are exposed to pit bulls because mommy's latest live in boyfriend has one too.
But if you are living in a solid working class, middle class or upper middle class neighborhood, with decent property values, well maintained homes, and stable families, pit bulls will be rarer. They will primarily be owned by troubled families....they are frequently a sign that someone in the family is involved in illegal activities. At best, its a red flag that this family has extremely poor judgement. As a result, most kids won't be allowed to go to that home and play. I have seen this happen in my middle class suburb many times. One woman I know returned her "rescued" pit bull to the shelter, as it was becoming aggressive toward her other dog and "friends would not visit us" because of the dog. The kids of families who own these dogs will be more isolated socially, or will gravitate toward the kids from troubled families whose parents don't really care where they go after school. Nice families don't allow their kids into homes with these dogs.
Unfortunately for the kids, the types of people who want to own these dogs don't really care about the impact on their kids. And the families who make the decision that their kids won't be allowed to play at a home with pit bulls are constantly validated. My childs classmate's pit bull...whose mom, a teacher, preached the "its all how you raise them!" mantra....killed their other pit bull. They refused to get rid of it. It recently dissapeared after it "bit someone in the face". They have tried to keep this information under wraps, but the moms are making sure that everyone knows it, so they can keep their kids safe and away from this home.
The kids of pit bull owners suffer socially, make no mistake about it.
RIP poor Sniffer...
Although they were put to sleep. Maybe you can keep up the good fight!
This Fuzpuf seems more level minded when compared to that other youtube nutter who wanted Sniffer internet dead.... and possibly dead in real life!
Wow, I think I just walked back into the 1st grade. All this name calling. I guess people feel better when they try and call soemone out ont he way they look. Everything is an opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs. But come on guys your grown ups lets act like it. Go back to debating about the breed.
**NOTE: Most women like bald men nowadays.
**who cares if he was part time or full time.
**who cares if he has a career or not. because you will never know.
**Why bring his wife and kids in the picture when they have nothing to do with this.
***Ask yourself this: Do you feel better by putting others down? Does it make you stronger? Does it make you any better than the next person?
**Plain and simple: GO BACK TO DEBATING ABOUT THE DOGS!! We dont care how bald he is, or what he does for a living.
**A good debate will remain interesting until you start talking stupid.
Plain and simple, I want to see the relevance of the highlighted comment addressed. Why would any sane individual quibble about whether a woman's hands or entire arms were destroyed by a pit bull, injuries that led to her death? FUZupf wants to talk about everything BUT that, and others are jumping on the ad hominem bandwagon, enabling the evasiveness.
Stop evading the issue. Pit bulls are dangerous animals strong enough to sever limbs. Explain to me why anyone should be allowed to own such an animal without the same sort of regulations that are in place for wild animals and wolf hybrids. Explain why anyone who claims to love dogs would own a dog specifically bred to kill other dogs. Explain why anyone who has children would own a breed of dog with the highest kill and maim rate of human beings every single year. Do you honestly think you're just that special, or do you just not give a damn?
**1st- Dogsbite.org addressed it as to be "The ladies arms had to be amputated" ----When in fact it was not her arms it was her hands.
**2nd--the reason the comment was posted as to that was to prove that once again DBO will post "dramatic" headlines when in fact its not true.
**3rd--yes the women died, truly sad. Really sad.
**4th--Fuzupf post videos of other breeds to prove that Pit Bulls are not the only ones that do attack. And people just cant take it. they dont believe that GSD, Collies, Bull Mastiffs etc attack. Get a clue "They are animals" all animals big and small, domestic or not have the potential to attack.
5th--If you cannot except the fact that other breeds attack, then you have no business debating. Because you are 1 sided and think that Pit Bulls are the only ones to cause harm on animals and humans.
6th--I own APBT's and let me tell you, they are not outside when my kids play. they are not inside when my kids are in. Not just because its a "Pit Bull" but because they are animals. My moms has 2 dogs and I will not allow them to be around the kids when they are playing. WHY? Because when kids run, scream and jump around what does that encourage any dog to want to do? run and chase.My mom has a Lab/Great dane mix and a rodesian ridge back.
7th--My older brother was attacked by a GSD. 32 staples in his head.
8th--When I was 5 yrs my mom took me and my siblings to the pound. What dogs can you guess tried to bite through the cages?? ANSWER- GSD, Rots, Chihuahuas, Golden Retrievers. What dogs were the ones quietly awaiting any affection they could get? ANSWER THE APBT!
9th-- I hated the APBT's seriously. I thought they were viscious. Scary looking. but then I came to owning one. The best damn dog I have ever had. True stuff. I have had labs, Golden retrievers, rots, danes, cocker spaniels, chihuahuas and alot more!
10th--I had a friend who had a Chihuahua, that damn dog tried to bite me. Just because I sat by the owner. But i guess thats ok right! Just because its small and all.
So to sum it up: You must admit to yourself that ALL dogs have the potential to cause bodily harm and even death on another human or animal. If you cannot admit that then you seriously have problems.
**Owning a Pit Bull. in my opinion does not put me and my family at greater risk than getting in the car each day to drive somewhere. Or to walk down the street or to walk in a bank. Everyday you put yourself in harms way. Its a part of life.
is there just ONE fucking pit nutter out there who can actually fucking READ?!
dogsbite.org did not exaggerate this attack. the story originally reported ARMS. you can still see and hear it in the youtube video.
Woman's arms amputated after dog attack
whether it was a honest or a dishonest reporter mistake or a translation error, the story was originally reported inaccurately. dogsbite.org corrected it when the information became available.
and you fucking morons are puzzled as to why we call you names. you are an unbelievably stupid lot.
Not only do the nutters like to harp on a point that has no point, they also continue to throw other breeds under the bus to show how angelic the pit bulls are.
I've been to pounds/shelters. Almost every dog in there is jumping up and barking because they are excited and don't get enough exercise. Some try to hide in the corner because they are scared to death, some bark at people to get them to stay back because they are scared, some jump up on the bars because they are excited that someone is coming to see them and try to lick the person from behind the bars. All the dogs behave differently. I don't think you know what a truly dangerous dog looks like.
In my shelter, adoptable dogs are in one section, unadoptable/newly captured dogs in another. The second section has dogs that have not been evaluated and could be dangerous. That's the only section where I have seen truly dangerous dogs and they have large signs stating so. Some idiots like to put their hands between the bars to pet the dog even though the sign warns against it and are shocked when the dog tries to bite them. I hope you're not one of these idiots.
In your 9th point you named 6 breeds (each plural), plus a lot unnamed breeds all of which you say are inferier to pit bulls. Why is it that it's mostly pit nutters who think all dogs are inferier to pit bulls? All dogs take dedication and training, and only irresponsible people have more dogs than they can control.
I'm glad you make sure those dogs aren't around your kids, and I hope for their sake those pits don't go berserk one day.
If the ifo was not available right away then nothing shoud have been posted. and why the profanity. Mr. or Mrs. Craven....I guess we will never know...right? Did I upset you? I'm leaning to Mrs. because you chose novels.
1 News reports out of Russia stated the victim's arms had been amputated. DBO reported the story exactly as it had been written. Hands vs. arms? This is a moron's argument. Had the victim lived she would have been dependent upon family or paid staff for all her ADL care. She could not feed herself, comb her hair, blow her nose, wash her body, dress herself, or wipe her own behind. How does that sound for a new lifestyle? How might you like it?
2 See above.
3 Yes, she DIED.
4 Yes, other dog breeds may bite. Pits maul and kill at a rate that leaves normal dog breeds in the dust.
5 Your debate rests on a false foundation. See #4
6 You make a profound statement with your remarks about the precautions you take with your pits and your children. Beagles, Labs, Goldens, Poodles (normal dogs) are constantly in the company of children without maulings and deaths. Normal families and normal dogs live together and do not require barbed wire to separate them.
7 Pit owners always have a dog bite to report, it's always an attempt to smear the dirt around. This argument no longer works.
8 Again, you are trying to slather blame on breeds like Goldens and Chihuahuas. These dogs have low to non existant mauling and death rates. Come on now, you are making yourself look like a fool.
9 So many of you say the same thing "I hated/was afraid of pits but then I came to see the light. Halleluiah"
10 Back to making yourself look foolish with the Chihuahua bite stories.
Last point... I did NOT put myself in harms way. I was going on about my peaceful business when the violence came to me. Every attack creates a new victim, we all have family and friends. You people and your violent maulers are your worst enemies. Victims and their families become advocates for regulating vicious dogs.
Last point, make sure you have insurance.
"If the ifo was not available right away then nothing shoud have been posted. and why the profanity. Mr. or Mrs. Craven....I guess we will never know...right? Did I upset you? I'm leaning to Mrs. because you chose novels."
the info WAS available. at what point do you determine, when all of the information is in? i see all of you half crazed pit nutters jumping on the hate the police band wagon, the SECOND a pit bull is shot. by the time the internal police investigation is done, there is a facebook campaign with a couple thousand signatures.
you are a fucking imbecile. you do exactly what you accuse us of doing, vilifying a breed, except in your case you have vilified a person, a victim with rights, unlike your ugly dogs. in your desperate attempt to vilify colleen, you completely ignore the FACTS.
my name is in this blog. you should read it, you *might* learn something.
Hm...Craven i think I touched a button.....
****Not once in my statement did I mention "Police" or anything in that kind.
**You or DBO should get all the facts straight before you jump on the "bandwagon"
**I doubt I would learn anything from you....as I said before...you see only one side of it...You fail to realize that FuZupf has posted other breeds who have caused significant damage and even deaths to another..but yet you still think APBT are the "Only" ones who do this.
**You still have yet to really look at what I wrote and you only pick out a part of what I wrote to debate on.
**I did admit that APBT's do attack...I can admit it...but there not the only ones who do and will...
**Bring on a real debate....maybe you will be worth my time....
----as for the novels...you tell me....admit who you are...why be secret...post a picture of you and not someone else.....you exposed FuZupf real face...lets see yours...what are you afraid of....
----What kind of dogs do you have??? Lets see: golden retriever....Or German Shepard...or both?
**Once again lets put the profanity behind us....were adults and when you use it...you just sound childish.
I exposed fuzupf's face? really, just how stupid are you people? he has a public youtube account. the videos were uploaded by him and ravensmom07. i didn't hack into his private account, i am not skulking around his house taking pictures. as far as i can tell, those videos are still there AND still set to public.
my comment about the police was in hopes of demonstrating how ridiculous you sound talking about "waiting" for the story. and still it was lost on you.
i have never said that other dogs don't bite, so there is nothing to debate there. i have never said that all pits are child killers, so there is nothing to debate there. have you even noticed that my focus is on animal aggression and IRRESPONSIBLE owners?
prior to this blog, i had no on line presence. i have no interest in participating in a virtual community. i am a bit of misanthrope. and i certainly have no interest in sharing information about my dogs with complete strangers.
*i am not an attorney in a rectangular state. i am just somebody who wants to walk their dogs in peace. i am just somebody who is tired of hearing about senior citizens fighting off pit bulls to save their poodles. i am tired of you fuckers manipulating the facts, controlling the debate and rewriting pit bull history.
and if you really are a serious dogman of 40 yrs, then you would immediately recognize fuzupf as the kind of person that is threatening your breed of choice.
Never did I mention I owned Pit Bulls for 40 years...
If in fact you say that you are "admitting" that Pit Bulls are not the only ones who attack than why is it that until now you actually said that other breeds attack????
I never said you lived in a rectangular state...simply asked you to identify yourself.
Your simply giving off hints as to who you are.
I think I know...but you have no idea.
So just confess...or did you meet your match??
Ravensmom07 has like 3 vids can you really get someones idenity from that?
Tell me how you do it?
Newsflash, the parameters of the discussion are set by the blogger, not those who may post comments. Don't like that? Don't read the blog or post foolish comments. Nobody owes you anything.
"I like how you guys are thinking that me losing my hair is an insult"
The point is that you are too old to be acting like a 19 year old girl.
And your pit bull love and arguments sound like they come right from a 19 year old teenage girl.
Jeez, this guy's buttons are getting punched all over the place. He's getting hysterical.
There's no point to debating about the dogs. They are fighting breeds. They kill and maim. Only an idiot who has no understanding of/true experience with dogs will pretend that pit bulls are pets.
There's nothing to debate.
("and if you really are a serious dogman of 40 yrs, then you would immediately recognize fuzupf as the kind of person that is threatening your breed of choice."
BANG! You nailed it.)
The anonymous poster is FUzupf, defending his "honor". What a schmuck.
oh sorry about the 40 yrs comment. i thought you were the other anonymous proud pit nutter commenting above.
"If in fact you say that you are "admitting" that Pit Bulls are not the only ones who attack than why is it that until now you actually said that other breeds attack????"
because i only want to regulate/restrict fighting dogs.
so let me see if i understand this correctly, an anonymous pit nutter is criticizing me for not identifying myself? i am not giving hints as to who i am. i was simply telling you who i am not. i am not a denver attorney.
how do i do it?
okay, i'll let you in on a little secret. it's called reading. shhhhhh...
"I am a 25 year old Mother of 3 marvelous girls and 3 four legged friends.(My pitties) I have a wonderful husband Fuzupf ! hehe you probably know who he is!"
if it will pump up your anonymous fragile ego, yeah, you beat me. i met my match. i'll lick my wounds and start disassembling my blog in shame. now go thump your chest at gopitbull.com or thug-dog or youtube. i have nothing to prove to you.
Anon 4;52, your post is very interesting. I still think I can't be shocked, but I am. A TEACHER, hiding an attack by her pit bull. Keeping a killer dog.
Take a look at this one, now taking up space in our universities. If you can find anything other than childish gibberish and lies....
All the degrees in the world don't eradicate stupid and emotionally and intellectually immature, to the point of menace to society
"I have a pit mix. I adopted her from Boulder Humane Society and I live in Longmont with my husband. I am white, pretty affluent, and a Dr. of behavioral genetics, specifically aggression, conduct and drug use. I am from England and have no voting rights however, my husband does. I do pay taxes! I am appalled to think that Aurora does not want "my kind of people" there. Sure, my pup is a mix, but I would adopt a pure APBT, AmStaff of Staff in an instant if I thought the dog needed somewhere to live! Does this make me a bad person? No! My husband and I are responsible pet owners. We take our dog to classes, in which she loves to play with other dogs. In fact she is the most submissive pup in her class. She enjoys learning, and loves to meet new people.
I truly believe that the prejudice against pit bulls and their owners stems from biased media coverage. If a pit bull attacks then it is all over the media, if a chihuahua attacks - well, it was just a cute misunderstood dog! Therefore, people believe that pit bulls are more likely to attack because they are only seeing one side of the story."
(Notice the dog fighter propaganda about the "chihuahua" mythology? Tanya Button is this naive? Yes, and naivete gets innocent people killed. Tanya and her husband are also walking lawsuit targets.)
Institute for BEHAVIORAL GENETICS (related to AGGRESSION!) at University of Colorado at Boulder
and spewing dog fighter propaganda to defend fighting breeds that she doesn't have the least understanding of.
It should frighten everyone that someone this ignorant and easily manipulated by crooks is a "researcher" at a university. Do you think her research is worth a dime?
The university should know. There's a conflict of interest here
UNLESS the worst is true, and Tanya does this to cook up propaganda for something like Berkey and VanKavage's lie that "every dog is an individual," while ignoring the fact that pit bulls are selectively bred by man to manipulate genetics to produce genetically related AGGRESSION behaviors and killing abilities.
@Craven-“i have never said that other dogs don't bite, so there is nothing to debate there. i have never said that all pits are child killers, so there is nothing to debate there. have you even noticed that my focus is on animal aggression and IRRESPONSIBLE owners?”
--I can understand your frustration on the breed that so many nowadays chose. I have yet to actually see you write anything about “Dog aggression” or “Irresponsible Owners” all I can see is you trying to pick apart a breed that ends up in the wrong hands. Some people should not own this type of breed. They would be better off owning a smaller dog that does not require a mental challenge. Pit Bulls are strong very athletic dogs and some do not understand that, lots and lots of exercise and mental stimulation is needed and some just don’t understand.
@Anon 5:43/4:42/3:43 -“Newsflash, the parameters of the discussion are set by the blogger, not those who may post comments. Don't like that? Don't read the blog or post foolish comments. Nobody owes you anything.”
--If the blogger chooses to allow the comments then there is not a problem. No need to be the blog police. I don’t and never said Craven owes me anything. He/She just gave me everything that I wanted. A confession. You can see above.
@Anon 8:27 “The anonymous poster is FUzupf, defending his "honor". What a schmuck.”
---Do not discredit me. I posted these comments and I can promise you I am not FuZupf. Let me have a little fun with this.
@Craven-“so let me see if i understand this correctly, an anonymous pit nutter is criticizing me for not identifying myself? i am not giving hints as to who i am. i was simply telling you who i am not. i am not a denver attorney.”
--Once again, I never said you were an attorney from a rectangular state. You brought that up my friend. If you want to assume that’s what I was saying then that’s your choice.
@ Craven-“if it will pump up your anonymous fragile ego, yeah, you beat me. i met my match. i'll lick my wounds and start disassembling my blog in shame. now go thump your chest at gopitbull.com or thug-dog or youtube. i have nothing to prove to you.
--Please don’t disassemble your blog. Im just getting started. Let me have some fun first. Im new to the blogging community. Stick around lets play.
"Please don’t disassemble your blog. Im just getting started. Let me have some fun first. Im new to the blogging community. Stick around lets play."
Good heavens Fuzzy, you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it?
"I have yet to actually see you write anything about “Dog aggression” or “Irresponsible Owners.”
Every single item posted on this blog involves an irresponsible pit bull owner. Do you REALLY not get this?
"He/She just gave me everything that I wanted. A confession. You can see above."
What are you talking about? There is no confession...
"Some people should not own this type of breed. They would be better off owning a smaller dog that does not require a mental challenge. Pit Bulls are strong very athletic dogs and some do not understand that, lots and lots of exercise and mental stimulation is needed and some just don’t understand."
Just why do pit bull owners continue to blame the peaceful public because their darling wigglebutts just happen, by dark chance, to end up in the "wrong hands?" You are not special.
""I have yet to actually see you write anything about “Dog aggression” or “Irresponsible Owners.”
Every single item posted on this blog involves an irresponsible pit bull owner. Do you REALLY not get this?"
scratch, i've had a little time to think about this comment and i think what we are seeing is the human identity pathologically entwined with their dog's or in this case, their mutant's. any attack on them is interpreted as an attack on their dogs and vice versa.
Bless your heart Craven, you are far more understanding than I am. It is a VERY weak ego that needs to be supported by a dog bred to kill. To call this abnormal would be a massive understatement.
Fucking pit nutters parading the details of their personal lives in public internet forums and then getting pissed off because some one EXPOSED them?
I dont think that anyone is pissed that you exposed his face....after all like you said his youtube page is public.
But to try and "make fun" of the way someone looks is just immature. In my opinion hes a good looking guy. Regardless of what breed he choses to "parade" around with.
Personal attacks are lame. Not every person who choses to own this breed or any other large breed is irresponsible or a breeder. The fight about that is just ridicilous. Dont assume...Prove!!
Anyone who makes fun of another is just jealous and depressed about the way they look. Its not high school. Everyone is beautiful in their own way.
Is there some kind of a script that is being sold to these nutters? They repeat the same over and over again. Anyone who can't see that something needs to be done about pit bulls is living on another planet or smoking some really good shit. Denial is the word of the day in their world and that's everyday.
"Everyone is beautiful in their own way."
and that is an idiotic statement.
or just pure jealousy......
Lots of people and pets WERE beautiful in their own way, until they were torn apart by a pit bull.
Those who allow their frankenmaulers to kill, either pets or humans, is NOT beautiful in ANY way. Those who allow their freak-of-nature dogs to maul and then prance away without paying for the medical treatments required are NOT beautiful in ANY way. Those lies can not be sold here, don't even try.
The comment wasnt directed towards dogs....just to humans....bring it in the way you want but you misinterpreted what I said.
**It was directed to the comment everyone is making towards FuZupf. Not really to anyone else.
-*Your so quick to call someone else ugly and aging and bald...blah blah blah...Its just immature. Come with a real come back not an immature response which is ALL that I have seen! Which is all that you really have.
Damn! its been busy over the weekend!
Craven, let me 'try' to end this debate so we can move on to the next pit nutter you expose.
The conclusion I came up with is that BOTH, DBO and me feel like we need to hurry as fast as we can and post the next attack without doing any research. That is wrong. We should hold off, gather ALL the information, then post it.
We are both guilty that whenever a pit attack (in her case) or any other dog attack (in my situation) comes out in the news, we are so quick to hurry up and post it without the full facts of the story.
Did I sound like an insensitive prick when I posted that comment? YES. I know none of you will believe me when I say my intentions weren't meant to be taken in an insensitive way. (and that's fine, you believe what you want to believe)
Do I sincerely feel sympathetic for this family? Yes. Believe it or not, I have Grandmothers just like anyone else.
When I saw all of this junior high drama name calling bullshit on your blog....all I could do is laugh my butt off. Because THEN it had absolutely nothing to do with our MAIN debate, Pit Bulls. But rather a pathetic attempt to somehow slander and bash me personally. (remember, my nose next time. Or my white chicken legs.)
So continue on with: exposing pit nutters, bashing people, making fun of them, and coming up with new little anecdotes to describe 'Pit Bulls'.
keep on keeping on!!
A real come-back like, "It was just her hands that were amputated, not her arms"? Is that the sort of come-back you're talking about? The sort that when a woman is dead from a horrific attack, some idiot wants to quibble about just how much of her body was intact at the time of death? You're defending the person who wanted to quibble about this. Think about that anon. What are you actually defending, and why?
Clueless, simply clueless...
i hate to burst your bubble fuzupf, but i have no intention of debating any pit bull owner who takes their pit bull to an off leash park. for me to take a pit bull owner seriously, they have just ONE requirement to meet: you have to admit that pit bulls are naturally dog aggressive and should never be trusted around dogs.
but here let me get you started on your next youtube sensation:
believe it or not, i think it is extremely important that all dog attacks be tracked and documented.
Never ONCE have I denied that pit bulls were "naturally dog aggressive."
Let me quote you, "pit bulls are naturally dog aggressive"
So you admit they are NOT NATURALLY HUMAN aggressive.
I do admit they were used for dogfighting. Yes, they are the choice breed for dogfighting, along with Presa's and a couple of others.
But are you suggesting that any other breed will not be dog aggressive if they have never been introduced to any other dog? Will any other breed be dog aggressive if that dog has been an 'outside' or chained dog for the majority of its life?
Off leash dog parks.......you disagree with Pits going there, but what about other dogs that have a problem with animal aggression? Is it okay for them to go just as long as their not Pits? My dog was rolled by a Standard Poodle one time, is that ok?
What about a dog that has been trained to protect and attack? Is it okay for them to maul a stranger that's just walking by the owner because that's what they were 'trained to do'?
Your argument might be that if they are trained the correct way they won't. But what about the retired k9 unit up in Utah that mauled the owner's son?
What about the k9 unit that attacked a jogger when he was supposed to be on a training excerise? What about the k9 unit that attacked 2 joggers that got too close to the police car?
They were trained and they still attacked.
I totally agree! ALL dog attacks need to be tracked so we can find the root cause of the problem and stop banning a breed just because ONE attacked.
So why do you ONLY post frankenmauler attacks? Is it just
because you think their ugly and stupid?
Never ONCE have I denied that pit bulls were "naturally dog aggressive."
actually you do. every time you take your pit to an off leash park. in the next frankenmauler roundup, you will meet a woman in ohio who claims to be an experienced pit bull owner and was surprised when her 5 yr old female pit attacked her 6 yr old male pit. they fought for an hour before the police arrived. she was injured. i've read accounts of people raising 6 wk old pit pups with kittens and they got along fine for years and then came home to a blood bath and dead cats. this was inside the home dog, not chained outside and abused.
i do not believe that pit bulls are any more human aggressive than say the akita and most pits are probably less human aggressive than akitas. the problem with the akita is, it was bred for fighting dogs and then bred to be human aggressive. akitas should also not be allowed in dog parks, along with sharpeis, bull terriers, ambulls, presas, dogos, tosas, filas. fighting, baiting and flock guardian breeds have no business in dog parks, i don't how trained and socialized they are.
(it should also be noted that pit bulls decapitated the resident akita in the hayashi household, the family of the little boy in california that was killed by pits.)
let's say i believe that your pit was rolled by a poodle, and let's say that i believe you will answer this question honestly, when you say it was rolled, are you describing two 5 month old puppies playing or adults acting out? for the latter, absolutely not. i would not allow my dogs to behave that way and i would not allow other dogs to behave that way towards my dog.
as for dogs trained to protect/attack for personal or police use, don't be stupid, of course i don't think it OKAY for them to maul strangers.
for a while i was posting other dog on dog attacks, as well as dog fight busts. i don't have time.
i do think they are super smart in one area, satisfying their prey drive. i observed my neighbor's pit learn on his own how to fly under my neighbor's radar in less than 30 minutes. he was very determined to not only stalk me while in my yard but get to me.
all dog attacks need to be tracked, all dogs who attack need to killed, and all owners of dog who attack need to prosecuted according to the damages their dogs do. but that won't fly, just look at alabama... the pit bull owners are out in force opposing a NON BREED SPECIFIC dangerous dog law, speaks volumes.
Anon 1:53 wrote: Let me quote you, "pit bulls are naturally dog aggressive"
So you admit they are NOT NATURALLY HUMAN aggressive.
Umm, no. Only a pit nutter with a complete lack of grasp of logic would jump to conclusion "B" from statement "A".
Dog aggression almost guarantees human aggression. Any dog that will launch an uninhibited attack on another dog will just as likely do so on a human. That's peer on peer aggression. Dogs don't differentiate.
The majority of pit bulls who have severely mauled or killed a human being have a history of maiming or killing dogs and other animals first. You see it in the reports over and over again.
And I'm with Craven. ANY dog, I don't care what the breed, that launches an uninhibited attack on a human being needs a dirt nap. No second chances. No extra training. No doggie boot camp. Dirt. Nap. There are too many good dogs that need homes to waste time on an aggressive animal. I'd extend that to any dog that kills other dogs for the reason I already stated above. They're dangerous to human beings, too.
Honest to God truth Craven,
raven (my dog) was rolled by a beige/tan standard poodle. The circumstance was, he had just turned one and (as you saw in my dog park videos) raven loves to run. As soon as we came in, raven went to meet his 'friends'. We hadn't even set our stuff down on the table yet, when I hear a YELP and I look up to see raven running with his tail tucked and the poodle catching up to him. the poodle tackled/tripped up raven to the ground and started to bite him when all the other owners came over and "shooed" away the poodle.
The owner of the poodle was an older lady and I guess another owner of a boxer told her to leave because this was the 2nd incident that day with her dog. So she left.
Ya, dog parks have pros and cons. You have to put all of your trust on ALL the owners that their dog won't be a problem.
"all dog attacks need to be tracked, all dogs who attack need to killed, and all owners of dog who attack need to prosecuted according to the damages their dogs do"
So you agree with a NEUTRAL BREED based legislation that comes down harder on the owners?
OMERGARED, you are a genius. Pit nutters will do anything to protect their mutants, even to the point of trying to make the victim the enemy. These dogs should not be allowed in our cities, on our streets. And about pit nutters saying "ban stupid people," maybe we SHOULD send the pit nutters off somewhere else along with their mutants.
FUZupf is absolute pond scum.
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